"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Post your field experimentation ideas here, and I'll do them.
- Thread starter Incog
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Solomon
Master Don Juan
I hvent read it all yet
But I will!!!
Solomon
Master Don Juan
MisterMcGee
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Bond made her laugh, then-
Bond: What about a drink at my place?
HB: Your place? Is it close?
Bond: Very.
8 second starefest.
HB: One drink
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Reading through this thread brings back some awesome memories of my undergraduate college career. This entire thread was a blast to do. From the slick ideas to the straight up outrageous ones, I can honestly say last school year (I've been away from the forums for about a year) was the most enjoyable one out of my college years.
Do any of you think that, a year later in retrospect, I regret any of the suggestions that I attempted which resulted in rejection? Of course not! In the same way, there is no one rejection that will matter to you in the grand scheme of things. The rejections that I received while experimenting with your ideas were some of the most hilarious ones I've ever gotten. Keep things in perspective at all times, and you'll have fun.
An update since I last posted: After I faded away from the forums I continued to approach chicks on campus and kind of "experiment" on my own. I wish I had been frequenting the forums at the time because you know that I would have given you day-to-day updates on each approach I tried and the results. I have my go-to approaches of course, and some of the ideas that I've tried in this thread I still use to this day (for example, my 5th experiment that L777 suggested). I am now attending graduate school at the very same campus and although I am much more vulnerable to time constraints, I'm thinking about starting this baby up again. How would you guys like a part 2?
EDIT: I want to give a shoutout to Randallpink83 for his tic-tac-toe opener idea that I used early on in this thread and I loved it. It's been one of my main weapons ever since.
Solomon
Master Don Juan
Yeah, last time around a lot of DJs wanted to get in on this so maybe this time there could be several of us trying these different approaches out. I'm curious to see what awesome ideas everyone will come up with.IsiMan84 said:
I moved to the Dallas area from Iowa. The city I lived by was maybe a little over 100,000 metro, and DFW metro is about twice the population of our entire state. My town was the type of place where everyone knew everyone, the same people went to the same places, and any failed pickup had long-term effects. I didn't realize I hadn't been on here since I moved, I'll update that soon.Solomon said:
One of my friends found a PUA meetup group in the Dallas area and they schedule a few get-togethers every now and then to talk about the same type of stuff we do on here. From what he tells me some of those guys need work too. But apparently they are planning to sarge at one of the Dallas malls next Sunday, so I might have to accompany him and see what these guys are all about. Could be a good chance to use some of those experimental approaches too. Have you proposed any new ideas, or are you looking to use the same format you did in this one?Incog said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
-It's my birthday! Can I have a birthday kiss? (Is it really your birthday?) No, but how about a kiss anyway?
-Do I know you? (delivered with ****ed brow- yes it's cheesy, that's the point)
-Are you single?
-Wow. (After looking at her up and down)
Off topic but what kind of setting are u in now. And will u have the opportunity to do it in your setting?
I'm in my last year of college right now and im considering trying some of these but the bad thing is. My school is 60-40 male to female. and the pop is about 20,000. I'm good looking and 5'11. i mainly go after asian girls, but they're so scarce at my school. i've gotten with a few though. I'm not sure how this would work on asian girls since our cultures are very conservative but who knows. I've had no problem talking to girls of any race maybe except some latina girls they're the most stuck up. i've had a gf of almost every race, u think it'd be a problem for an attractive asian male to use the shock and awe approach?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Vanilla
Senior Don Juan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kG6OOH5WYA
Sorry to leave you all hanging for 2 years! I decided to swing by the site and see what everyone was up to. First off, I must say I have slowed down considerably from the guy that originally posted this thread, who was willing to try just about any approach idea for the hell of it. I swam through my fair share of women in college, and as fun as it was while it lasted, I know I couldn't have done that forever. I'm now devoting a heavy amount of time to my new career, which explains my absence from the forums. Ironically, meeting women has never been easier. I put very little effort into it. The passion I have for my career is extremely attractive to women..not to mention when I tell a girl the career itself (I'm a police officer), I can feel them getting hot for me..haha.
Boy, this thread was fun to do. I am honored to have inspired a few of you out there to step out and try new things when it comes to approaching women. Reading this thread in retrospect, years later, I had forgotten about every instance of rejection I posted about here, while I had accurately remembered several of the hook-ups resulting from approaches in this thread. What does that tell you?
I don't know how often I'll stop in to check up on you guys (I hope it's not another 2 years), but let me leave you with this..
Never, ever be afraid to approach a woman.
hexx
Don Juan
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.