"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Post your field experimentation ideas here, and I'll do them.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Solomon
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I hvent read it all yet
But I will!!!
Solomon
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Bond made her laugh, then-
Bond: What about a drink at my place?
HB: Your place? Is it close?
Bond: Very.
8 second starefest.
HB: One drink
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Reading through this thread brings back some awesome memories of my undergraduate college career. This entire thread was a blast to do. From the slick ideas to the straight up outrageous ones, I can honestly say last school year (I've been away from the forums for about a year) was the most enjoyable one out of my college years.
Do any of you think that, a year later in retrospect, I regret any of the suggestions that I attempted which resulted in rejection? Of course not! In the same way, there is no one rejection that will matter to you in the grand scheme of things. The rejections that I received while experimenting with your ideas were some of the most hilarious ones I've ever gotten. Keep things in perspective at all times, and you'll have fun.
An update since I last posted: After I faded away from the forums I continued to approach chicks on campus and kind of "experiment" on my own. I wish I had been frequenting the forums at the time because you know that I would have given you day-to-day updates on each approach I tried and the results. I have my go-to approaches of course, and some of the ideas that I've tried in this thread I still use to this day (for example, my 5th experiment that L777 suggested). I am now attending graduate school at the very same campus and although I am much more vulnerable to time constraints, I'm thinking about starting this baby up again. How would you guys like a part 2?
EDIT: I want to give a shoutout to Randallpink83 for his tic-tac-toe opener idea that I used early on in this thread and I loved it. It's been one of my main weapons ever since.
Solomon
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Yeah, last time around a lot of DJs wanted to get in on this so maybe this time there could be several of us trying these different approaches out. I'm curious to see what awesome ideas everyone will come up with.IsiMan84 said:
I moved to the Dallas area from Iowa. The city I lived by was maybe a little over 100,000 metro, and DFW metro is about twice the population of our entire state. My town was the type of place where everyone knew everyone, the same people went to the same places, and any failed pickup had long-term effects. I didn't realize I hadn't been on here since I moved, I'll update that soon.Solomon said:
One of my friends found a PUA meetup group in the Dallas area and they schedule a few get-togethers every now and then to talk about the same type of stuff we do on here. From what he tells me some of those guys need work too. But apparently they are planning to sarge at one of the Dallas malls next Sunday, so I might have to accompany him and see what these guys are all about. Could be a good chance to use some of those experimental approaches too. Have you proposed any new ideas, or are you looking to use the same format you did in this one?Incog said:
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
-It's my birthday! Can I have a birthday kiss? (Is it really your birthday?) No, but how about a kiss anyway?
-Do I know you? (delivered with ****ed brow- yes it's cheesy, that's the point)
-Are you single?
-Wow. (After looking at her up and down)
Off topic but what kind of setting are u in now. And will u have the opportunity to do it in your setting?
I'm in my last year of college right now and im considering trying some of these but the bad thing is. My school is 60-40 male to female. and the pop is about 20,000. I'm good looking and 5'11. i mainly go after asian girls, but they're so scarce at my school. i've gotten with a few though. I'm not sure how this would work on asian girls since our cultures are very conservative but who knows. I've had no problem talking to girls of any race maybe except some latina girls they're the most stuck up. i've had a gf of almost every race, u think it'd be a problem for an attractive asian male to use the shock and awe approach?
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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Vanilla
Senior Don Juan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kG6OOH5WYA
Sorry to leave you all hanging for 2 years! I decided to swing by the site and see what everyone was up to. First off, I must say I have slowed down considerably from the guy that originally posted this thread, who was willing to try just about any approach idea for the hell of it. I swam through my fair share of women in college, and as fun as it was while it lasted, I know I couldn't have done that forever. I'm now devoting a heavy amount of time to my new career, which explains my absence from the forums. Ironically, meeting women has never been easier. I put very little effort into it. The passion I have for my career is extremely attractive to women..not to mention when I tell a girl the career itself (I'm a police officer), I can feel them getting hot for me..haha.
Boy, this thread was fun to do. I am honored to have inspired a few of you out there to step out and try new things when it comes to approaching women. Reading this thread in retrospect, years later, I had forgotten about every instance of rejection I posted about here, while I had accurately remembered several of the hook-ups resulting from approaches in this thread. What does that tell you?
I don't know how often I'll stop in to check up on you guys (I hope it's not another 2 years), but let me leave you with this..
Never, ever be afraid to approach a woman.
hexx
Don Juan
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.