fertileTurtle
Master Don Juan
I have cuz im short. Doesnt bother me a bit.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I wouldn't turn away a guy that was "short" just because of his height. It's just that SOME of them have huge chips on their shoulder because of their height...thus, they do not appeal to me (as I've said before, there's nothing I hate more in a man that the victim mentality). I've been attracted to shorter guys in the past... When I say I have a "thing" for tall men, I mean that they catch my eye sometimes (but height means nothing if he has bad teeth or an awkward personality...lacks confidence, etc).wutangfinancial said:lol, weren't you the one telling me height doesn't matter, it's your game, blah blah
Guess what, every singly women on earth has a "thing" for taller men, it's genetic, it's not just you. It's not an odd preference; rather, it's universal.
I've seen short guys date busted girls taller than themselves....
Again, your height has nothing to do with the height of the girl-it has to do with the attractiveness of said girl. All girls want tall guys. Thus, ugly girls and short guys finish last. Just go to any club, any high school dance, etc.
I am not going to pretend to understand how you're feeling. The fact of the matter is, you cannot change your height - so why not just accept it and move on? How is it that some short guys can get past it and others can't? What do they have that you don't?wutangfinancial said:We have chips on our shoulder because our taller friends are out on dates while we angrily type out inane posts on so suave.
Every guy on this site who is still a virgin is below average height.
Imagine being fat, and not being able to ever change it. That's what it's like being a short guy.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Purple-Haze said:I am not going to pretend to understand how you're feeling. The fact of the matter is, you cannot change your height - so why not just accept it and move on? How is it that some short guys can get past it and others can't? What do they have that you don't?
It varies. There are different types of White people. The Dutch are the tallest people in the world from what I've read. They're about 6ft 2 on average.schttrj said:tell me something guys honestly and Purple Haze, you too, what is the average height of girls in US, UK or Europe? i would really like to know.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
You make yourself sound stupid at every opportunity. I think you fail with girls because your brain is underdeveloped. Too much Rock Band, not enough books.ElStud said:(I'm either 5'9 or 6 flat I think)
Do you wear high heels? :crackup:ElStud said:(I'm either 5'9 or 6 flat I think)
wutangfinancial said:We have chips on our shoulder because our taller friends are out on dates while we angrily type out inane posts on so suave.
Every guy on this site who is still a virgin is below average height.
Imagine being fat, and not being able to ever change it. That's what it's like being a short guy.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I like petite girls anyway... Natalie Portman comes to mind(she's shorter than me) I know for a fact, because I stood like 5 feet away from her oncelordson said:i would say that a "good" height for a grown man, 20+, is at least 5'10'. because most guys i know are at least that, anything else is considered shorter.
actually i havn't seen that many very short guys before, or maybe its just i dont notice them.
its tough, just like being ugly, but you are what you are and you can't change it so you'll have to do the best you can/ obvioulsy you're not oging to be banging the hottest girls all the time, but you stilln eed to try.
Thats very AFC Eric... she's just a girl!!EricInTheHouse said:I like petite girls anyway... Natalie Portman comes to mind(she's shorter than me) I know for a fact, because I stood like 5 feet away from her once![]()
Natalie... I love you![]()
slaog said:Thats very AFC Eric... she's just a girl!!![]()
She's everything I want in a GF, not just her looks either..... she is ......perfectslaog said:. she's just a girl!!![]()
We were texting tonight and I mentioned her height a few times and she boasted that I must be delighted that she's so tall. Before in my AFC days I would have said something like "yes I do like tall women, it is nice" but today I said "I'd prefer 5'9 or 5'10 but you'll do!". lolslaog said:I'm after getting a number of a girl who is 5ft 11 so see how that goes. She said she doesn't wear high heels for obvious reasons!
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.