"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Poll: Do you have children?

Do you have children?

  • No, I have no children.

    Votes: 10 62.5%
  • Yes, I have a son(s).

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • Yes, I have a daughter(s).

    Votes: 3 18.8%
  • Yes, I have both a son and a daughter.

    Votes: 1 6.3%

  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .

Jaylan

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Just curious. Because it would seem most veteran posters, even the older ones, dont have kids. And if they do have kids, it would seem few have daughters and most have sons. Ive noticed the men here with children have a very different outlook and perspective on dating and life. And there does seem to be different advice given amongst those parents with sons, or daughters, or both.

Though its possible most men with kids just simply dont mention them here.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I have an 11yo daughter. She is quite the little redneck just like her dad.

I was considering making a thread specifically about raising daughters but sounds like there wouldn't be any interest.
 

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Tictac said:
3 - two boys, one girl.

Doesn't work in your 'structure'.
Ooops. I meant to add the plural (s) in the forth option for those here who have both sons and daughters.
logicallefty said:
I have an 11yo daughter. She is quite the little redneck just like her dad.

I was considering making a thread specifically about raising daughters but sounds like there wouldn't be any interest.
Real cool man. I actually want a daughter if I ever decide to have kids. I always felt more paternal about daughters than sons. Not that I wouldnt treat a son with as much love. Id like to have the son first though, so he can look out for his sister(s) and be the oldest.

And actually, when I thought up this topic, you and TicTac were one of the few guys I assumed had daughters. I was able to guess that based on how I see you two talk about females with regards to some topics...or just how you speak in general.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yup.. I have a 16yo daughter (.. Hates fb and social media, loves the outdoors, helps me hunt and gut my deer). I also have a 10yo son.. He is getting there but not quite. Both do awesome in school (A averages) and both know martial arts.
 

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:up: @mauser.

I have had exes with 11yo boys who were not bad kids but my objective opinion apples to apples: girls are easier to raise than boys. At least at this age.
 

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logicallefty said:
:up: @mauser.

I have had exes with 11yo boys who were not bad kids but my objective opinion apples to apples: girls are easier to raise than boys. At least at this age.
One thing I dread about having a daughter is the teenage years.

Not only do I have to worry about her new found sense of self, and dealing with the battles that many teens and parents have...but I will also have to worry about her mental, physical, and emotional safety as she begins to go out into the world on her own more often.
 
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