"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Poll: Do you have children?

Do you have children?

  • No, I have no children.

    Votes: 10 62.5%
  • Yes, I have a son(s).

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • Yes, I have a daughter(s).

    Votes: 3 18.8%
  • Yes, I have both a son and a daughter.

    Votes: 1 6.3%

  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .

Jaylan

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Just curious. Because it would seem most veteran posters, even the older ones, dont have kids. And if they do have kids, it would seem few have daughters and most have sons. Ive noticed the men here with children have a very different outlook and perspective on dating and life. And there does seem to be different advice given amongst those parents with sons, or daughters, or both.

Though its possible most men with kids just simply dont mention them here.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I have an 11yo daughter. She is quite the little redneck just like her dad.

I was considering making a thread specifically about raising daughters but sounds like there wouldn't be any interest.
 

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Tictac said:
3 - two boys, one girl.

Doesn't work in your 'structure'.
Ooops. I meant to add the plural (s) in the forth option for those here who have both sons and daughters.
logicallefty said:
I have an 11yo daughter. She is quite the little redneck just like her dad.

I was considering making a thread specifically about raising daughters but sounds like there wouldn't be any interest.
Real cool man. I actually want a daughter if I ever decide to have kids. I always felt more paternal about daughters than sons. Not that I wouldnt treat a son with as much love. Id like to have the son first though, so he can look out for his sister(s) and be the oldest.

And actually, when I thought up this topic, you and TicTac were one of the few guys I assumed had daughters. I was able to guess that based on how I see you two talk about females with regards to some topics...or just how you speak in general.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Yup.. I have a 16yo daughter (.. Hates fb and social media, loves the outdoors, helps me hunt and gut my deer). I also have a 10yo son.. He is getting there but not quite. Both do awesome in school (A averages) and both know martial arts.
 

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:up: @mauser.

I have had exes with 11yo boys who were not bad kids but my objective opinion apples to apples: girls are easier to raise than boys. At least at this age.
 

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logicallefty said:
:up: @mauser.

I have had exes with 11yo boys who were not bad kids but my objective opinion apples to apples: girls are easier to raise than boys. At least at this age.
One thing I dread about having a daughter is the teenage years.

Not only do I have to worry about her new found sense of self, and dealing with the battles that many teens and parents have...but I will also have to worry about her mental, physical, and emotional safety as she begins to go out into the world on her own more often.
 
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