"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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POF's stealth fatties

SgtSplacker

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Whats up with all the stealther fatties on POF? Gorgeous looking face, super creative photography skills. I mean WTF, dating sites are supposed to sell you the person, not some concept of a perfect you. Heck after she takes off the makeup, heels, push up bra, and whatever else she can think of to trick men into thinking she looks better it's a totally different person!

What blows is that these girls tend to bite alot(pun intended lol). I feel bad asking them for a body shot. Any tips you guys might have to ward off the fatties besides just asking them for a body shot?

Kind of a tuffie for me because I am a dedicated boob afficionado, and sometimes the nicest cans are on chubby girls.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Albatross953

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I learned from an ex of all people, if you can see her collarbones clearly in the head shot, you're probably ok. If not, well more likely she's not "average". Occasionally you can use this to find girls online listed as a "few extra" who just think they're heavy...these are good cause nobody fights over them.
 

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Collarbone tip is epic thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
 

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Also look at the arms. Usually bigger girls have fat arms. Skinny face but big arms = fatty in disguise
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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eh, when I was on top of my online game, I'd ALWAYS ask for another recent pic. This does a lot besides just figuring out if they're trying to hide something. It also says "I'm just not going to go out with anyone." It's a good way to have them start to qualify themselves to you.

But either way, If you're going to online date, I wouldn't recommend POF.
 

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No problem, glad to help. And its true pof really is bottom of the barrel.
Or just cynical after too many women who don't have their sht together.
 

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if all of her pics are touched up faceshots and none of them show the body then you can bet she is hiding something
 

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POF is whack, stay away from it.

Most of the women on there are hideous and the ones that aren't have SERIOUS entitlement issues. They think because they get lots of traffic on that crappy site that they're hot sh*t. A 5 or 6 on there, acts like a high 8 or 9 would in real life. True story.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Thanks for the replies guys, i've been considering the pay sites but just never got around to it (no motivation really). I'm going to give it a shot.
 

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I just had to pop back in and comment on this. Match.com is the way to go. Night and day difference and much more attractive women than pof. You do indeed get what you pay for.


Now, there is ways around the headshot only pics. I tried asking for a full body pic but that rarely works. I have a vague facebook account setup for the purpose of bouncing chicks off some dating sites. I ask them to add me on facebook, and most do. They also put lots more pictures on their facebook most times, which helps to reveal the truth. I've gone out with some headshot only girls that turned out to be pretty decent.
 
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