"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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POF's stealth fatties

SgtSplacker

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Whats up with all the stealther fatties on POF? Gorgeous looking face, super creative photography skills. I mean WTF, dating sites are supposed to sell you the person, not some concept of a perfect you. Heck after she takes off the makeup, heels, push up bra, and whatever else she can think of to trick men into thinking she looks better it's a totally different person!

What blows is that these girls tend to bite alot(pun intended lol). I feel bad asking them for a body shot. Any tips you guys might have to ward off the fatties besides just asking them for a body shot?

Kind of a tuffie for me because I am a dedicated boob afficionado, and sometimes the nicest cans are on chubby girls.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I learned from an ex of all people, if you can see her collarbones clearly in the head shot, you're probably ok. If not, well more likely she's not "average". Occasionally you can use this to find girls online listed as a "few extra" who just think they're heavy...these are good cause nobody fights over them.
 

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Collarbone tip is epic thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
 

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Also look at the arms. Usually bigger girls have fat arms. Skinny face but big arms = fatty in disguise
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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eh, when I was on top of my online game, I'd ALWAYS ask for another recent pic. This does a lot besides just figuring out if they're trying to hide something. It also says "I'm just not going to go out with anyone." It's a good way to have them start to qualify themselves to you.

But either way, If you're going to online date, I wouldn't recommend POF.
 

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No problem, glad to help. And its true pof really is bottom of the barrel.
Or just cynical after too many women who don't have their sht together.
 

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if all of her pics are touched up faceshots and none of them show the body then you can bet she is hiding something
 

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POF is whack, stay away from it.

Most of the women on there are hideous and the ones that aren't have SERIOUS entitlement issues. They think because they get lots of traffic on that crappy site that they're hot sh*t. A 5 or 6 on there, acts like a high 8 or 9 would in real life. True story.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Thanks for the replies guys, i've been considering the pay sites but just never got around to it (no motivation really). I'm going to give it a shot.
 

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I just had to pop back in and comment on this. Match.com is the way to go. Night and day difference and much more attractive women than pof. You do indeed get what you pay for.


Now, there is ways around the headshot only pics. I tried asking for a full body pic but that rarely works. I have a vague facebook account setup for the purpose of bouncing chicks off some dating sites. I ask them to add me on facebook, and most do. They also put lots more pictures on their facebook most times, which helps to reveal the truth. I've gone out with some headshot only girls that turned out to be pretty decent.
 
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