"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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POF's stealth fatties

SgtSplacker

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Whats up with all the stealther fatties on POF? Gorgeous looking face, super creative photography skills. I mean WTF, dating sites are supposed to sell you the person, not some concept of a perfect you. Heck after she takes off the makeup, heels, push up bra, and whatever else she can think of to trick men into thinking she looks better it's a totally different person!

What blows is that these girls tend to bite alot(pun intended lol). I feel bad asking them for a body shot. Any tips you guys might have to ward off the fatties besides just asking them for a body shot?

Kind of a tuffie for me because I am a dedicated boob afficionado, and sometimes the nicest cans are on chubby girls.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I learned from an ex of all people, if you can see her collarbones clearly in the head shot, you're probably ok. If not, well more likely she's not "average". Occasionally you can use this to find girls online listed as a "few extra" who just think they're heavy...these are good cause nobody fights over them.
 

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Collarbone tip is epic thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
 

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Also look at the arms. Usually bigger girls have fat arms. Skinny face but big arms = fatty in disguise
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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eh, when I was on top of my online game, I'd ALWAYS ask for another recent pic. This does a lot besides just figuring out if they're trying to hide something. It also says "I'm just not going to go out with anyone." It's a good way to have them start to qualify themselves to you.

But either way, If you're going to online date, I wouldn't recommend POF.
 

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No problem, glad to help. And its true pof really is bottom of the barrel.
Or just cynical after too many women who don't have their sht together.
 

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if all of her pics are touched up faceshots and none of them show the body then you can bet she is hiding something
 

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POF is whack, stay away from it.

Most of the women on there are hideous and the ones that aren't have SERIOUS entitlement issues. They think because they get lots of traffic on that crappy site that they're hot sh*t. A 5 or 6 on there, acts like a high 8 or 9 would in real life. True story.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Thanks for the replies guys, i've been considering the pay sites but just never got around to it (no motivation really). I'm going to give it a shot.
 

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I just had to pop back in and comment on this. Match.com is the way to go. Night and day difference and much more attractive women than pof. You do indeed get what you pay for.


Now, there is ways around the headshot only pics. I tried asking for a full body pic but that rarely works. I have a vague facebook account setup for the purpose of bouncing chicks off some dating sites. I ask them to add me on facebook, and most do. They also put lots more pictures on their facebook most times, which helps to reveal the truth. I've gone out with some headshot only girls that turned out to be pretty decent.
 
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