"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Sometimes you just gotta get down in the trenches and do the dirty work right? If we don't someone else willl…
Exactly.

Could be the fighting and dying soldiers of her recent partners. See this old post from me. What you did is exactly the "Lefty Scratch and Sniff Test". But in your case there was no cheating to be done per se. Just a stinky cvnt. Nice work!

Posted about this in a couple other threads, and making a new one for anyone who wants to discuss this specific topic:

In 2012 after I split with my cheating ex bigamist wh0re "wife", I was chatting with one of her ex BFs on Facebook, and we got to talking about her sn@tch.

I told him how at the begining and the end of her and my relationship, her sn@tch had this horrific smell for days at a time. This was not your average everyday sweat or pee stench every woman can get after any average day, this smell was FOWELL. My best description of it was rotton or saur flesh that had also burnt. This sh!t burnt my eyes. I had to shower twice to get the smell off my d!ck.

Anyway, her ex BF said "Oh yes, I know THE SMELL very well".

He explained how when a woman has multiple sex partners, her v@g can get off balance have this bad funky smell when it adjusts from one man's sperm to another. I honestly don't know if it can happen when condoms are used, but I am strongly assuming it can't.

Anyway, I found the Center for Disease Control's Reference to it. It's called "Bacterial Vaginosis"

http://www.cdc.gov/std/bv/stdfact-bacterial-vaginosis.htm

If you suspect your b!tch is cheating, take the "Lefty scratch and sniff test" and see if her v@g has "the smell" that makes the paint on the walls crack.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Will approach it tonight/tomorrow morning, lets see how it goes. Thanks for the advice.
just be gentle and you should be okay.
 

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This is my amateur opinion...

Fish is bacterial vaginosis = she's a ho.

Urine smell = it's clean move in.

Musky vagina outdoor = she's not cleaning herself properly. If her feet are not done I'd move on.

Cloudy discharges means bacteria or yeast. Clear discharge she's a keeper.

My 2 cents
 

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This is my amateur opinion...

Fish is bacterial vaginosis = she's a ho.

Urine smell = it's clean move in.

Musky vagina outdoor = she's not cleaning herself properly. If her feet are not done I'd move on.

Cloudy discharges means bacteria or yeast. Clear discharge she's a keeper.

My 2 cents
It smelled like a vagina followed by a strong smell of marijuana burning... I don't smoke weed but I smelled it.. You know when you smell weed its like rubber burning or something.... It smelled something like that?
 

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Maybe she smoked a joint and fingered herself, or got fingered by a dude that just smoked a joint? When you smoke a joint the smell really stays on your fingers allot
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Likely bacteria. She needs to douche
 

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At the time of this posting I've only fingered 3 girls in my sexual "career".

First girl had a definite fish odor, but after the night was over it went away.

Second girl had such a strong, pungent sweat+fish stank that it would stay on my fingers for DAYS. I'd be in class and go to scratch my nose and be surprised like "Oh Meg, you're still here"

Third girl: Barely any smell. Slight urinish (I guess) flavor when I'd go down, but it never lingered on my fingers for more than a few minutes.

All vagina stanks are unique, as is their clinging capabilities.
 

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At the time of this posting I've only fingered 3 girls in my sexual "career".

First girl had a definite fish odor, but after the night was over it went away.

Second girl had such a strong, pungent sweat+fish stank that it would stay on my fingers for DAYS. I'd be in class and go to scratch my nose and be surprised like "Oh Meg, you're still here"

Third girl: Barely any smell. Slight urinish (I guess) flavor when I'd go down, but it never lingered on my fingers for more than a few minutes.

All vagina stanks are unique, as is their clinging capabilities.
This one resembled the second girl you fingered. I almost felt like puking a few times I smelled my finger, that's what ultimately decided my nexting.
 

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One time there was a pvssy that smelled so bad I couldn't leave fast enough and I left my $200 boxers behind :(
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It depends on a lot of factors. Sometimes it is due to the time of day. Has she exercised? Was it hot that day? Has she showered that day? When was the last time she had sex?
 

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Have generally found found that girls who masturbate/use toys regularly taste and smell much better. But in general, they are sadly clueless about what's going on down there. Seriously, how?
 

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What you did is exactly the "Lefty Scratch and Sniff Test". But in your case there was no cheating to be done per se. Just a stinky cvnt. Nice work!
She does go to the gym regularly on like her lunch at work and she came to see me after work. But I would assume she showered, she smelled good outside of her vagina.

As far as the smell...honestly this best way I can describe it is the smell of a regular pvssy with a strong after scent of like Weed! Like you know when people smoke weed and you smell it in a hall way or something? That was like the scent that came off strong
I've encountered that skunk weed, rubber, natural gas pong a number of times and in every case it's been a chick douching in the shower. They think they're doing you a favor but it messes up the PH. It's not a sharp whiff but more of a pungent stench.

It's not impossible to detect by the old Lefty Scratch and Sniff Test but unmistakable via a fanny fart as the odor is more volatile and gas like.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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If it smells fishy or funky, chances are she has BV. While it cannot transfer to you, it really smells bad. If it's chronic, she's, well screwed; just not in the way she prefers. Usually happens to women with many sex partners. I know as I had dealt with this in the past. I felt bad, I walked away. Sex was too painful for her and she'd not do anything else. Plus, she got angry that she couldn't have sex, and that anger was then portrayed on to me. How was it my fault? Not exactly sure as she had it since before we ever had sex. Though, they say lesbos can transfer to each other since they have those bacterial organisms in them, where men don't. Not entirely sure though.
 

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I've encountered that skunk weed, rubber, natural gas pong a number of times and in every case it's been a chick douching in the shower. They think they're doing you a favor but it messes up the PH. It's not a sharp whiff but more of a pungent stench.

It's not impossible to detect by the old Lefty Scratch and Sniff Test but unmistakable via a fanny fart as the odor is more volatile and gas like.
I was not aware of this.. interesting.
If it smells fishy or funky, chances are she has BV. While it cannot transfer to you, it really smells bad. If it's chronic, she's, well screwed; just not in the way she prefers. Usually happens to women with many sex partners. I know as I had dealt with this in the past. I felt bad, I walked away. Sex was too painful for her and she'd not do anything else. Plus, she got angry that she couldn't have sex, and that anger was then portrayed on to me. How was it my fault? Not exactly sure as she had it since before we ever had sex. Though, they say lesbos can transfer to each other since they have those bacterial organisms in them, where men don't. Not entirely sure though.
What's BV? Bacterial something? She definitely wasn't a lesbo but I think she got around the **** carousel for sure.

It's ironic because I crave banging slvts in a lot of ways but then shvit like this and STDs make me paranoid.
 

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Guys. Time for a little sex Ed. Vaginas are not odor free and do not smell like roses.

But they should not smell foul either.

Strong fishy odor can be bacterial vaginosis. Google it. It also can have a grayish white thicker discharge. It is caused by flora imbalance in the vag. Yeast infections are also caused by flora imbalance. Overgrowth of yeast? Candida (yeast infection), overgrowth of bad bacteria (caused by too acidic pH)? Bacterial vaginosis.

BV is not considered a STD because it is an imbalance. However it CAN be sexually transmitted to a woman. It also can occur without sexual activity.

The vagina is self cleaning. Women who douche can upset the pH and the flora...other things that can upset the flora include semen (a woman can have a new partner (regardless if she has been with 2 men or 20 men) and the acidic pH of the semen can lower pH and cause it.

Men can cause it. Meaning... If a guy is screwing several women raw...his urethra actually gets innoculated on the inside with the woman's flora. So if the man fvcks one woman one night, and another woman the next night...his d I c k actually cross contaminates the ladies. Men can't clean the inside of the urethra, and pee & ejaculation don't clean it out either.

So a promiscuous man can actually cause BV in women because he has multiple partners.

Condoms can cause it (especially latex ones).

If a man does not have clean hands or fingers it can cause BV because of bacteria on the hands or under the fingernails.

Oral antibiotics for strep throat or infection prevention after surgery or dental work can cause BV as that can whack the balance in the vag.

Women should not douche. Doucheing is a big cause of BV because it throws off pH and disturbs flora.

If a woman has BV (and because it has so many causes over 80% of women WILL have it at some point), and her menstral cycle (which resets the vaginal flora) does not resolve it, then she needs to see a doctor, refrain from sex for a week and treat it with an antibiotic used for the purpose of killing everything in there so it can reset. She should take some good bacteria pills during this time and should not consume alcohol during treatment (the antibiotic used for this will make a woman violently ill if mixed with alcohol.)

All this information is online.

Vaginas are sensitive. Lots of sex and ejaculate from a monogamous partner can disturb flora.

But generally if a woman is regularly exposed to one man sexually, the woman's body will acclimate to that man's ejaculate.

BV doesn't mean a woman is a ho. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if a ho has BV because a ho does activities that can cause BV...but a man ho can cause BV in a chick who isn't a ho too.

Google it. This information is all online. No need to spread misinformation around here.

Public service announcement over.
 

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^This. Explained better from a woman than my "Lefty Scratch and Sniff Test" version of it. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, BV is a smell a man will never forget. The smell of a woman's vag with BV will peel the paint off the wall of a barn full of dead rotting pigs in 100 degree weather. If your eyes aren't buring when you smell it, it's probably not BV.
 

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Guys. Time for a little sex Ed. Vaginas are not odor free and do not smell like roses.

But they should not smell foul either.

Strong fishy odor can be bacterial vaginosis. Google it. It also can have a grayish white thicker discharge. It is caused by flora imbalance in the vag. Yeast infections are also caused by flora imbalance. Overgrowth of yeast? Candida (yeast infection), overgrowth of bad bacteria (caused by too acidic pH)? Bacterial vaginosis.

BV is not considered a STD because it is an imbalance. However it CAN be sexually transmitted to a woman. It also can occur without sexual activity.

The vagina is self cleaning. Women who douche can upset the pH and the flora...other things that can upset the flora include semen (a woman can have a new partner (regardless if she has been with 2 men or 20 men) and the acidic pH of the semen can lower pH and cause it.

Men can cause it. Meaning... If a guy is screwing several women raw...his urethra actually gets innoculated on the inside with the woman's flora. So if the man fvcks one woman one night, and another woman the next night...his d I c k actually cross contaminates the ladies. Men can't clean the inside of the urethra, and pee & ejaculation don't clean it out either.

So a promiscuous man can actually cause BV in women because he has multiple partners.

Condoms can cause it (especially latex ones).

If a man does not have clean hands or fingers it can cause BV because of bacteria on the hands or under the fingernails.

Oral antibiotics for strep throat or infection prevention after surgery or dental work can cause BV as that can whack the balance in the vag.

Women should not douche. Doucheing is a big cause of BV because it throws off pH and disturbs flora.

If a woman has BV (and because it has so many causes over 80% of women WILL have it at some point), and her menstral cycle (which resets the vaginal flora) does not resolve it, then she needs to see a doctor, refrain from sex for a week and treat it with an antibiotic used for the purpose of killing everything in there so it can reset. She should take some good bacteria pills during this time and should not consume alcohol during treatment (the antibiotic used for this will make a woman violently ill if mixed with alcohol.)

All this information is online.

Vaginas are sensitive. Lots of sex and ejaculate from a monogamous partner can disturb flora.

But generally if a woman is regularly exposed to one man sexually, the woman's body will acclimate to that man's ejaculate.

BV doesn't mean a woman is a ho. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if a ho has BV because a ho does activities that can cause BV...but a man ho can cause BV in a chick who isn't a ho too.

Google it. This information is all online. No need to spread misinformation around here.

Public service announcement over.
Only experienced it once with one lady. She couldn't get rid of it and it was considered chronic. She couldn't had sex too much either. It stunk to high heaven as well. Smelled like dead fish. We didn't last that long. I felt bad and even took her to an OBGYN. The doc said it's mainly due to multiple sex partners and the flora not able to adjust correctly. She was given a variety of antibiotics, but it didn't help. She also took vaginal flora pills to help rebuild the flora, didn't help either. She went back and forth from a yeast infection to BV. Horrid.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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