"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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POF Because your AA is too much to bear?

Online or street sarging?


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Purefilth

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How many of you actually go out sarging and hit on girls?

Do you only use online dating?

If YES why?

If NO how many girls do you hit on in a week, whats your success rate?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Stagger Lee

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I use online and also go out to bars a few times a week and do approaches. Although, I go out much less often and do less approaches than I use to.

I use online because going out and doing approaches in bars takes hours of my time, I always drink some, cost me some money, and has a low success rate for me. My approach to lay rate percentage is probably in the single digits. That might sound aweful but the reality is cold approaches give a low return rate.

I generally only do 4 approaches in a night and am only out for 2-3 hours max.

With online dating my message to meet up ratio percentage is also probably in the single digits, but it's low effort. In the past an internet meetup would be a lay up to 70% or more of the time. Now meet ups have been returning less than single digit percentages. The only thing that has changed is my hair is a little thinner and I'm a few years older and my pics are getting old. Its all about looks.
 

Packers2010

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i do everything.. street game , day game ( if i can i take the train home from school. so i CAN do it.. my AA kicks in so i mostly don't. ) night club ( been there past 2 nights) and i have been trying out OKC atm. got to have all your bases covered.
 

marmel75

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I don't have much time to go out much anymore...online using NN's system with a couple of small modifications is probably giving me a 20-25% message to number ratio..
of that I am probably meeting up with 50% of the women I actually am messaging(have so many numbers its ridiculous---over 50 in under a month) and have fvcked 5 out of 8, all SNL although to be fair the one girl messaged me and said I look like I'd be a fun f buddy.
.so that was pretty much in the bag from the get go...

Great way to find women to fvck and not deal with all the drama and BS of relationships..
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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