Plinco's cold approach journal

[Plinco]

I haven't made any approaches in three weeks. I'm rusty. I went to the beach and made a half-heated approach. It was so bad that I'm not counting it as an approach. The second one I went in indirect, which I won't count either. Finally I felt my stride and made a direct, cold approach. She was way too shy, but I'll count that as an approach, and it still put my in a better mood.

Idk. It seems… hokey that approach.
Going direct with indent removes the opportunity to flirt completely. (As flirting is by definition ambiguous signalling of sexual interest.)

girls love to flex their flirt .
It turns them on and makes them wet to do it.
Like. I can get a girl near sopping wet sometimes using innuendo and sexual analogies , and ramping arousal that way, just with tonality ,body language and the words on top.

why would a guy want to remove THAT opportunity in an approach ..(?) Impatience or something. Idk

In my experience, women feel more comfortable with a man who knows what he wants.

 

[Cheeky_James]

I haven't made any approaches in three weeks. I'm rusty. I went to the beach and made a half-heated approach. It was so bad that I'm not counting it as an approach. The second one I went in indirect, which I won't count either. Finally I felt my stride and made a direct, cold approach. She was way too shy, but I'll count that as an approach, and it still put my in a better mood.





In my experience, women feel more comfortable with a man who knows what he wants.

Hmmm
Nope. Disagree. “Desire Lives In Mystery” wins out over that idea… by a big stretch.

Women read ‘the vibe’ - a guy does not have to come out and make it explicit by saying “I like you”
She already scans to pick that up.. It doesn’t need to be said like that at all (!) it’s actually hurting your chances. Sigh.

women are indirect communicators.
And detectives also.

They actually love the process pursuing a man , being kept uninformed and ‘cracking’ a man, for him to finally admit his true feelings . This is a womans idea of ‘Romance’.
direct verbal approach is robbing them of all of what they really enjoy doing. Straight off the bat. Stop doing it.



get comfortable sitting in more ambiguous sexual tension , voice tonalities , eye contact, touch and other general flirting stuff . Much hotter for the woman.
Use Mixed signals too (very hot to women)

A guy can get a chick dripping wet that way just with his flirt game. Become a great flirt instead . It’s not that hard really.

maybe just google the acfual dictionary definition of ‘Flirting’. ‘Charming’ and ‘Suave’. Meditate on those and internalise the meanings. Great exercise.

ie charming and suave both contain an element of being insincere ( fake.)

so rather than “hey, I like you”
It would become “hey, omg I LOVE you”

as Brent Smith says as a maxim- “the more you tell them, the more you Repel them”. Quite true.

 

[Plinco]

Hmmm
Nope. Disagree. “Desire Lives In Mystery” wins out over that idea… by a big stretch.

Women read ‘the vibe’ - a guy does not have to come out and make it explicit by saying “I like you”
She already scans to pick that up.. It doesn’t need to be said like that at all (!) it’s actually hurting your chances. Sigh.

women are indirect communicators.
And detectives also.

They actually love the process pursuing a man , being kept uninformed and ‘cracking’ a man, for him to finally admit his true feelings . This is a womans idea of ‘Romance’.
direct verbal approach is robbing them of all of what they really enjoy doing. Straight off the bat. Stop doing it.



get comfortable sitting in more ambiguous sexual tension , voice tonalities , eye contact, touch and other general flirting stuff . Much hotter for the woman.
Use Mixed signals too (very hot to women)

A guy can get a chick dripping wet that way just with his flirt game. Become a great flirt instead . It’s not that hard really.

maybe just google the acfual dictionary definition of ‘Flirting’. ‘Charming’ and ‘Suave’. Meditate on those and internalise the meanings. Great exercise.

ie charming and suave both contain an element of being insincere ( fake.)

so rather than “hey, I like you”
It would become “hey, omg I LOVE you”

as Brent Smith says as a maxim- “the more you tell them, the more you Repel them”. Quite true.

You gotta remember it matters a lot how you say what you say. It's one thing to say "hey I think you're gorgeous" out of desperation, versus telling her that she's a viable option.

 

[Cheeky_James]

You gotta remember it matters a lot how you say what you say. It's one thing to say "hey I think you're gorgeous" out of desperation, versus telling her that she's a viable option.

idk man.
I think “hey, I like you ..” is a terrible line. It’s a blah / nothing statement to open with.

I’ve opened on Hinge with
“Hi x , I think you’re hot and I want to be your Lover Man”

Wayyy more ballsy.

there is no balls to “hey , I like you”
It’s super safe and almost nice guy sydnome .

take a risk, and risk a bold sexual vibe, I say.
Or else a fake vibe / mixed signals vibe / OTT flattery vibe.

much better ime.

and I wouldn’t say that out of desperation,
IRL I’d say that other line with confidence , but I’d make it Over The Top.

“Omg! You are so Gorgeeeoussss!” with a mock ‘I think I’m in love ‘ tonality.

and then I’d follow that up with “ I think I’m in Love , mah heart is beating for you” etc etc

really Ham it up. Yknow?

women know this approach well, if they accept a guys looks , they will accept that approach,

they know it’s a OTT romantic come on , to try to get in their pants.

later after they stop laughing , they will say “ stop that , I know what you’re doing , sneaky”

and I may reply “noooooo, don’t be like that haha “ as I try to keep it up and get closer to her,

just try going more Romantic / Shcmoozy dude and see how it goes. It’s very powerful.
And seems to be a dying art tbh.

the old pua Juggler talks about this , so does Zan P , and Bobby Rio , among others. It’s a thing.

 

[Plinco]

idk man.
I think “hey, I like you ..” is a terrible line. It’s a blah / nothing statement to open with.

I’ve opened on Hinge with
“Hi x , I think you’re hot and I want to be your Lover Man”

Wayyy more ballsy.

there is no balls to “hey , I like you”
It’s super safe and almost nice guy sydnome .

take a risk, and risk a bold sexual vibe, I say.
Or else a fake vibe / mixed signals vibe / OTT flattery vibe.

much better ime.

and I wouldn’t say that out of desperation,
IRL I’d say that other line with confidence , but I’d make it Over The Top.

“Omg! You are so Gorgeeeoussss!” with a mock ‘I think I’m in love ‘ tonality.

and then I’d follow that up with “ I think I’m in Love , mah heart is beating for you” etc etc

really Ham it up. Yknow?

women know this approach well, if they accept a guys looks , they will accept that approach,

they know it’s a OTT romantic come on , to try to get in their pants.

later after they stop laughing , they will say “ stop that , I know what you’re doing , sneaky”

and I may reply “noooooo, don’t be like that haha “ as I try to keep it up and get closer to her,

just try going more Romantic / Shcmoozy dude and see how it goes. It’s very powerful.
And seems to be a dying art tbh.

the old pua Juggler talks about this , so does Zan P , and Bobby Rio , among others. It’s a thing.

 

[Cheeky_James]

 

[Plinco]

The first four sounded like drunk women.

Mystery works better when it's genuine.

 

[Plinco]

Update

Just got back from dancing. I'm still terrible at it but I'm getting better. I'm like Bill Murray in this scene

I've been feeling above other people lately, so I didn't socialize much at all. I originally planned on trying to make new acquaintances and hit on a bunch of women, but when I got there, I just started dancing and enjoying the atmosphere and felt above everyone else there. Usually I feel like I'm the smartest person in the room.

The last three months, my business has been brutal. So far I'm operating at a loss for the year. I made some revenue this month, but that will have to be spent on maintenance. I've had to tap into my savings and my liquid assets (savings account, bank account, cash) are running pretty low right now. @BPH Can't afford your input for now, probably not for a few months, sorry buddy.

Online dating sucks. I swipe left on most of the women I see. I've either have unmatched or have been unmatched from every match I had on Hinge, so I'm at zero right now, and Tinder has been a complete waste of time since covid.

 

[BPH]

@BPH Can't afford your input for now, probably not for a few months, sorry buddy.

That's fine, figured that might be the case. In my returning LR, I mentioned that I'm shifting it over to something higher ticket, so I probably won't advertise anything more than my socials outside of that one thread.

 

[Plinco]

I was out until 1AM. Just got back home.

I made four cold approaches and made some notes. All four girls and their friends were polite but also short with me. I had to put all the work into making a conversation, which tells me that I have a looks problem. I felt pretty confident, and overall I felt pretty good also after dancing for hours tonight. All four girls had x's on the back of their hands, which means that they were between 18-20 years old. I used some version of the line, "Hey I think you're pretty and wanted to come say hi" as the opener.

1. Trying to have a conversation with her, she wasn't responding much, minimal responses to my questions and comments. I decided to cut it short by asking her if she had a boyfriend, and she said yes.

2. I her and her friend were both polite but more short than the first. She said she had a boyfriend right away. I saw the same girl leave with this sharp looking dude, and as I was walking through the parking lot, she was all over the guy she left with. It looks like she had just met this guy there, and the boyfriend line she gave me was to cut off the interaction.

3. She said that her and her friend had to go. They didn't leave, they wanted to cut the conversation right away.

4. Basically a repeat of the first.

I have certain habits in my conversations that I need to change. I'm a good conversationalist if I can relate something that someone visibly has going on, but I like information, which leads me to ask questions like I'm doing an interview. @BPH got on me for this before.

The more I do this, the more I feel determined because I don't have any other option.

 

[Plinco]

I went out to my favorite spot on Thursday nights. Hit the dance floor and had some fun. Made three cold approaches, and it felt great to make them until I had a conversation with the bouncer from the girl who I approached as #3.

Girl #3

I said, hey I thought you looked gorgeous and wanted to say hi.

She said, your name is Jimmy right?

Me: How did you know my name?

Girl #3: You talked to me before.

Me: I did? Haha I don't remember. Well take it as a compliment anyway.

Then a song came on that I wanted to dance to so I left. After I got off the dance floor, the bouncer approached me and said that girl #3 complained about me being creepy. I wasn't' asked to leave, just given a warning. I was in a good mood and spoke confidently when I talked to her so I don't know why she had a problem. The fact that I hit on her a second time was an accident. The bouncer said that I shouldn't hit on girls who have an "X" on the back of their hand, which means they are under 21. Of course that would defeat the purpose on going there on a Thursday night since those are the girls I usually like the most.

 

[BPH]

The bouncer said that I shouldn't hit on girls who have an "X" on the back of their hand, which means they are under 21. Of course that would defeat the purpose on going there on a Thursday night since those are the girls I usually like the most.

You're playing a very dangerous game by mixing with the under 21 crowd.

There's a (maybe still) popular under 21 club in Ocean City called H20. The thing with being 18 to enter is that, similar to real bars, you'll have people who are underage getting in...and the risk there should be obvious.

If you prefer college girls, that's fine, but I'd strongly recommend you meet them in REAL bars where you know everyone is at least legal.

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

You're playing a very dangerous game by mixing with the under 21 crowd.

There's a (maybe still) popular under 21 club in Ocean City called H20. The thing with being 18 to enter is that, similar to real bars, you'll have people who are underage getting in...and the risk there should be obvious.

If you prefer college girls, that's fine, but I'd strongly recommend you meet them in REAL bars where you know everyone is at least legal.

Right, and heaven help you if the dad or the brothers are happy to use lead pipes or worse even if she is of age and likes you a lot.

 

[Plinco]

You're playing a very dangerous game by mixing with the under 21 crowd.

There's a (maybe still) popular under 21 club in Ocean City called H20. The thing with being 18 to enter is that, similar to real bars, you'll have people who are underage getting in...and the risk there should be obvious.

If you prefer college girls, that's fine, but I'd strongly recommend you meet them in REAL bars where you know everyone is at least legal.

I have 12 cold approaches so far this month. Of course that's no where near what I need, as we discussed already. @nicksaiz65 and another forum member said that they would do 40-50 approaches in one night. That's not practical where I live, so I would have to go to Orlando for a weekend to get those kind of numbers.

Right, and heaven help you if the dad or the brothers are happy to use lead pipes or worse even if she is of age and likes you a lot.

I really hope that doesn't happen (and things like that certainly do happen) because there would be a lot of room for misunderstanding for everyone involved, and the legal troubles and everything else too.

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

I have 12 cold approaches so far this month. Of course that's no where near what I need, as we discussed already. @nicksaiz65 and another forum member said that they would do 40-50 approaches in one night. That's not practical where I live, so I would have to go to Orlando for a weekend to get those kind of numbers.



I really hope that doesn't happen (and things like that certainly do happen) because there would be a lot of room for misunderstanding for everyone involved, and the legal troubles and everything else too.

Well, you seem a responsible sort and smart. The likelihood of that happening is fairly remote I'd think.

 

[characternote]

" The bouncer said that I shouldn't hit on girls who have an "X" on the back of their hand, which means they are under 21 "

What's the age of consent and stuff where you are and do you have have age gap laws?

I don't know how it works over there. Where I am, the age of consent is 16. We don't have age gap laws so even if I was 60 or whatever, i'm allowed to bang a 16 year old girl.


I'm assuming 18 is legal for you? But then I know there's 'romeo and juliette' laws in the US? Not sure what ages they relate too, though

 

[nicksaiz65]

I have 12 cold approaches so far this month. Of course that's no where near what I need, as we discussed already. @nicksaiz65 and another forum member said that they would do 40-50 approaches in one night. That's not practical where I live, so I would have to go to Orlando for a weekend to get those kind of numbers.



I really hope that doesn't happen (and things like that certainly do happen) because there would be a lot of room for misunderstanding for everyone involved, and the legal troubles and everything else too.

Yeah, if you’re running into the same girls then you should move to a bigger city ASAP, that means your city is too small for cold approach. A bigger city is life changing.

How many people are in your current city?

 

[revannt]

are you ugly?

 

[Plinco]

" The bouncer said that I shouldn't hit on girls who have an "X" on the back of their hand, which means they are under 21 "

What's the age of consent and stuff where you are and do you have have age gap laws?

I don't know how it works over there. Where I am, the age of consent is 16. We don't have age gap laws so even if I was 60 or whatever, i'm allowed to bang a 16 year old girl.


I'm assuming 18 is legal for you? But then I know there's 'romeo and juliette' laws in the US? Not sure what ages they relate too, though

In the USA those laws vary state by state. You'd have to look up the specifics because like you mentioned, there are nuances to the way these laws are written. In my case, in Florida, the legal age is 18 and there is no age gap law that affects me. What Bryce is talking about is that it is not unheard of for patrons to get into bars and clubs with fake IDs. In 21+ places, you might have a few 19/20 year olds slipping by, but in 18+ you might get 16/17 getting in when they are not supposed to, and that's a potential danger.

Yeah, if you’re running into the same girls then you should move to a bigger city ASAP, that means your city is too small for cold approach. A bigger city is life changing.

How many people are in your current city?

I don't live in a place, and I don't have the type of preferences that allow me to do 50 approaches in one night. @BackInTheGame78 suggested that I approach any woman in order to get approach experience, which might not be a bad idea. The problem there is that it isn't exactly the same kind of experience. It's like conditioning yourself for wrestling by doing a lot of running.

are you ugly?

Yes and no. I'm not bad looking but most of the girls who I like look down on the fact that I'm much older.

 

[Plinco]

I'm making a note to myself. I need to pay attention to my emotional state and my behavior. I believe I'm making people feel uncomfortable around me without realizing it. I don't have this problem when I'm around people whom I'm close to, but when I'm by myself I'm somehow putting off a bad vibe. I don't know why I'm doing that either.