Playoffs

[forcerecon01]

Just feel gut wrenched now that Green Bay lost. Are you guys following the NFL? Whose your favorite team?

 

[rjc149]

Go Jets.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I lived in tampa in the 90s when the bucs finally started to not be a joke. When they were orange, the games would draw 10k people. My college would give away tickets, but no one wanted them. It's weird to root for tom brady, but i like seeing the team in another super bowl, where they will be huge underfogs btw.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Made $70 off Davonte Adams touchdown

 

[redskinsfan92]

Packers fan. Kicking the FG down by 8 and on TB's 8 yard line was dumb. Not to mention giving up a big pass play with a few ticks left before the half. Brady's the greatest but he didn't even have to play well because GB gave him short fields and easy matchups.

That FG was the stupidest football decision I've seen all year.

Mathematically you are more likely to convert a 4th down than you are to stop Tom Brady from getting a first down, get the ball, drive down the field, then score a touchdown.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Great year to be a Tampa Bay sports fan.

The cardinals gave the rays randy arozarena for almost nothing, then later the same year he hits more post season home runs than any player in history.

 

[MatureDJ]

I am a fan of the team that got TOTALLY RIPPED OFF in the 2018 NFC Championship Game. That said, at least I and my fellow fans lost our championship virginity in 2009/XLIV.

But I must give kudos to the Buccaneers for coming up with a defensive game plan to go against future Hall-of-Famer Drew Brees and his lack of being able to throw the deep ball, due to both his age and injuries.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Rodgers and breese are two aging pocket passers with no mobility. Keeping mahomes under control is going to be much different for the bucs defense.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Mahomes is on another planet

He is the reigning super bowl mvp. The only sensible decision for a defensive plan is to shut him down and make kc beat them some other way. I think it was michael vick that the 90s bucs would assign to a middle linebacker to as a sole responsibility just to shut down the qb run.

 

[Augustus_McCrae]

I lived in tampa in the 90s when the bucs finally started to not be a joke. When they were orange, the games would draw 10k people. My college would give away tickets, but no one wanted them. It's weird to root for tom brady, but i like seeing the team in another super bowl, where they will be huge underfogs btw.

I was a Bucs fan from the beginning back in the 70s. (Yes I’m that old LOL).

And like Bible said, they were so bad that it was easy to get really great seats to a game to watch a good team when one came in to town. However, they did have some good class players like Lee Roy Selmon, Doug Williams and Mark Courtney. The coach, John McKay was famous for his one-liners: “ We didn’t tackle well, but we made up for it by not blocking “ and his most famous quote, when asked about the team’s execution, he reportedly said: “I’m in favor of it”.

The biggest mistake they made back in those days was when Hugh Culverhouse, the original owner, was so cheap that he refused to give Doug Williams a larger salary, so he went to the USFL. The team suffered after that.

These days though, I watch almost no professional sports. The exaggerated self importance of the players and the incessant grandstanding is a real turn off. However I caught part of the games this past weekend because I still love football as a sport. Mahomes is an amazing quarterback and it’s extremely impressive that Brady can still play at that level considering his age.

-Augustus-

 

[zekko]

Rodgers can still move, not like he used to...and is still accurate. A lot of people were wondering why he didn't scramble on 3rd and goal from the 8...20/20 hindsight from the couch though. Still, the Packers didn't lose because of Rodgers but because of sloppy defense and questionable coaching decisions.

I thought he should have run it there too, he made a similar play last week against the Rams where he ran it. Would have been better than that lame pass he threw.

I mostly agree with what you're saying about the defense. The Packers have had crummy defense since their last Super Bowl. They've thrown a lot of resources at it but can't seem to get it fixed. If you look at the stats, Rodgers outplayed Brady. But Brady has always had a good defense on his teams so it's hard to compare. Brady always seems to do enough to win, so kudos to that. On the other hand, Rodgers hasn't been able to get in done in these NFC championship games. He's 1-4 in them, and the one game he won he didn't play well. In this game, they had their chances but couldn't get it done. The defense got two picks from Brady where the Packers only used them to go three and out.

 

[forcerecon01]

Go Pack Go ! Rodgers mvp

 

[zekko]

Go Pack Go ! Rodgers mvp

And got engaged to Shailene Woodley.

 

[forcerecon01]

And got engaged to Shailene Woodley.

Happy for him

 

[eli77]

giants all the way but damn brady is something else

 

[forcerecon01]

giants all the way but damn brady is something else

no kidding

 

[zekko]

giants all the way but damn brady is something else

He doesn't even seem to be the best quarterback, but somehow he always wins. It's like everything he touches turns to gold.
I'm not saying he's bad, he's unbelievably clutch. But it's not like he's dragging these teams over the finish line. Like in the Super Bowl the Bucs defense dominated KC like no other team has been able to. And there's Tom Brady to reap the benefits. He does his job but it's like there's some devilment at work with him.

 

[TheProspect]

He doesn't even seem to be the best quarterback, but somehow he always wins. It's like everything he touches turns to gold.
I'm not saying he's bad, he's unbelievably clutch. But it's not like he's dragging these teams over the finish line. Like in the Super Bowl the Bucs defense dominated KC like no other team has been able to. And there's Tom Brady to reap the benefits. He does his job but it's like there's some devilment at work with him.

I know totally what you mean. His ability to win it matters the most is unrivaled. His accomplishments make him undisputedly the greatest QB of all time –– if not the best player of all-time.

However, in terms of pure talent, prime Brady is behind Patrick Mahomes. He's also behind Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning in their primes. Yet he has 3 more Super Bowls than those 3 combined. That's not to say he isn't talented, the guy has won 3 NFL MVP awards.

A few seasons cumulating in Super Bowl appearances, he heavily relied on the contributions of his supporting cast. Some years it was a solid defence, some years it was indispensable weapons like Randy Moss (arguably the greatest WR of all-time and who he probably wouldn't have been to set the TD record without) and Rob Gronkowski (arguably the greatest TE of all-time), or a playoff version of Julian Edelman...

That being said, some of his Super Bowl seasons his supporting cast was mediocre and yet he still made it work and still won games. With the exception of one season, when he's played a full season the guy has won 10+ games every year. What's that like, 18 seasons!? His first season without Belichick the Patriots tanked and he won the SB for his new team.

I think his work ethic and unrelenting drive & passion to win has an intangible effect on his teammates. You can never count Brady out of a game – his Super Bowl comeback win over the Falcons being the perfect example. Every player wants to play with him for a chance to get a ring.

In addition to everything mentioned, I think you throw in longevity and luck into the equation, and you get Tom Brady's success.

 

[zekko]

His first season without Belichick the Patriots tanked and he won the SB for his new team.

I may be wrong about this, but I feel like if Brady was on the Pats this year, they still would have tanked. I gather that he left NE because he was tired of Belichick (who drives his players relentlessly and apparently didn't appreciate him). But it also looked like NE had finally run its course, and the talent was drying up. So he went to Tampa, which was loaded with talent but needed the QB. Good decision for him, but he also left Belichick with a bare cupboard, he left at the most convenient time.

 

[TheProspect]

I may be wrong about this, but I feel like if Brady was on the Pats this year, they still would have tanked. I gather that he left NE because he was tired of Belichick (who drives his players relentlessly and apparently didn't appreciate him). But it also looked like NE had finally run its course, and the talent was drying up. So he went to Tampa, which was loaded with talent but needed the QB. Good decision for him, but he also left Belichick with a bare cupboard, he left at the most convenient time.

I think there's some truth to that. Evans, Brown, Godwinn, Gronkowsi. An efficient O-Line. A quarterback's wet dream.

However, Cam Newton play was abysmal this season. He only threw EIGHT touchdowns this year... Granted, he had no weapons, but QBs have been worse off and produced more with what they had. Can you imagine Brady throwing just 8 touchdowns in a full season? Newton had an additional 12 touchdowns through the ground, but a playmakerof his caliber (previous MVP) should be able to do more.