Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
Playing hard to get v. asking out
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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B-Lemond
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"Me and some friends are going ______ later on, you can tag along if you want."
Her possible responses:
1) No thanks. - Doesn't matter cause in her eyes your not desperate because your gonna go no matter what even if she wasn't going to come. It's like you were doing her a favor by letting her be part of the fun too.
2) Sure/Yes/Ok - At this point you got your self a date. Meet her wherever you guys are going or you can pick her up, whatever you'd like. When you get to the place say in a playful way "O well, looks like they, (your friends), didn't show up."
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
There are many different ways of getting a girl to want to go out with you. One method is to act like you are not interested in her, of course she has to be a little interested in you first. The real thrust in this method is not that you do not want her, but that you do not need her, YOU ARE NOT DESPERATE.
Of course when you ask a girl out, you are committing and showing that you want to spend time with her, the whole point of a relationship, you like the girl. So it does look as if the advice is in complete juxtaposition. Act like you do need her rather than do not want her. Since, if a girl acts like she does not want you, you are less likely to ask her out.
Remember play nice.
B-Lemond
Master Don Juan
BIG CHUMPIN'Originally posted by JSH
Act like you do need her
Do I need to say more?
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Originally posted by azn_alex
^JSH..wtf? at least other ppl gave advice, all u did was highlight his problem which he already knew existed..
No, actually he made more sense than anyone...
One method is to act like you are not interested in her, of course she has to be a little interested in you first. The real thrust in this method is not that you do not want her, but that you do not need her, YOU ARE NOT DESPERATE
I dont consider myself a DJ, or an AFC, but this makes a lot of sense to my current situation. I was really thinking about this girl a lot, too much, borderline oneitis going on. So a week and a half ago I decided to stop talking to her and stop hanging out with her because I knew she either wasnt interested or was playing games, either way I wasnt in good shape. I didnt call her this past weekend, and she called on Sunday. We talked for a couple minutes, just basic BS "how are you" yada yada and we hung up. She said she was just calling to say whats up and we hadnt talked, I told her not to be afraid to call but made sure not to say Id call and didnt try and make plans to hang out. 30 minutes later she called me back on my cell phone and said she wanted to hang out with me. I was on my way to play basketball and told her Id call her when I got back. we didnt hang out and she called back again today and said she wanted to chill tonight. I went from thinking about her a lot and her being in control (which I think she waa really getting a thrill out of), to not thinking about her much and not caring and having her really come out of her shell and make it pretty evident she is interested and inturn seemingly making her even more interested than she might have been. This may not work for your situation but it worked for me
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
They work best as two different methods, but can be combined.
The essence in getting a relationship with a girl is that you want her but do not need her. (assuming some basics)
Asking her out shows that you want her.
Playing hard to get shows that you need her.
The best way of combining the two is for her to believe that you have value (ie other girls want you) and for you to ask her out. They are not contradictory is essence but are difficult to demonstrate at the same time. The way in which I do this is through teasing and social value (having a reputation and girls wanting to go out with you). You can even build your own social value, by telling stories of what you have done, but make them believable and occasionally show that you can do these things you talk of.