"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Playing 2 games I am unfamiliar with (facebook) I need advice

Dee-Zy

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So I'm not into this internet thing to get women but I've been hearing about guys sleeping with girls they met on facebook and I am pretty big fan of facebook.

So I decided to use a line I really liked from mystery on this girl who looked gorgeous on facebook. I can't see her profile, only that little profile picture. I never used the line before so I don't know what to respond... I thought she would be asking me questions but it didn't work out that way. So I sent this message to her:

Is beauty really in the eye of the beholder?

Hi Laura, I came across your profile picture and I think you look really attractive but beauty is common. If you don't mind me asking. What do you have going for yourself besides looks?



She responded...


i'm a professional dancer, i've been dancing for ten years and now have my own dance team. I'm an esthetician and makeup artist and i've been appointed one of canada's top ten makeup artist. I do have a small buisness for esthetics where i go to peoples homes and do basic esthetics. I work full time at an optical clinic where i'm office manager, i work hard. i never have "just looks" as you quoted, i'm always working on some project. so i would say i have a lot going for me



Which I think is good news... I just don't know what to do at this point! haha.
She is giving me A LOT to work with but she looks almost offended, so I have to play this with tact. I definitely have her in the palm of my hand, I just don't know what to do now for her not to fleet away.


I think that is great exercise for the real world.


Suggestions?


DZ
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Dee-Zy

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ok, any advice that can be constructive or at least somewhat helpful?
 

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First things first....What kind of dance? Tell her you're interested in learning and see if she can give you private lessons.
 

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That was a very corny opening line, you could have came a lot better than that. But hey she replied and put time into it.. so she's investing...
 

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Why don't you give her something, now that she's passed that "test".

"Hey, thanks for responding. I didn't mean to come off corny before, it's just that there's a plethora of nice looking girls on here, with nothing else to their personality. It's refreshing to find someone so motivated and dedicated to what they do"...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Dee-Zy

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WesCottII said:
Why don't you give her something, now that she's passed that "test".

"Hey, thanks for responding. I didn't mean to come off corny before, it's just that there's a plethora of nice looking girls on here, with nothing else to their personality. It's refreshing to find someone so motivated and dedicated to what they do"...


oooooh, I like that, keep em coming.
 

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WesCottII said:
Why don't you give her something, now that she's passed that "test".

"Hey, thanks for responding. I didn't mean to come off corny before, it's just that there's a plethora of nice looking girls on here, with nothing else to their personality. It's refreshing to find someone so motivated and dedicated to what they do"...
"It's refreshing"? lol So you're going to apologize for being corny and then go and drop an even cornier line? I wouldn't go that route...
 

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I wouldn't apologize, but I don't see how it is corny on saying that it is refreshing to meet a girl that is more than just her hair.

I wouldn't word it the same way, but the idea is there.

punish bad behavior and reward good behavior.
 
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