“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Plate Has A Male Freind Stopping Over At Her House!

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@soulforge and she said shes horrible relationship material when shes drunk and she doesnt want to lose him? And he stayed there? Yep he fukd her and she doesnt want to lose him. Read between the lines brother.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Yep case closed but as we ve all said it was a leaky boat.

BTW I ve posted in past re the useless female friends I ve had drop me once they got a bf obviously because he no like. And probably I had poor utility as I don't do things for them.

So obviously plenty of chicks do get it's not good for the bf business.

Now I have male or couple friends. Seems better ROI for the average Joe.
 

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@soulforge and she said shes horrible relationship material when shes drunk and she doesnt want to lose him? And he stayed there? Yep he fukd her and she doesnt want to lose him. Read between the lines brother.
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Thing is Bruv, she swears nothing has ever happened between them and nothing ever will.

This dude is like 62 years old and looks fuked.

I spoke to her about this matter yesterday in a calm rational way... She is happy with telling him he cannot stop over again.

She even wants me to meet him, so I understand he is a platonic freind.

I don't think she realised, I would have an issue with it.

Now she realises that men stopping over her house, can never happen.. Maybe this needed to be pointed out to her.

Like I said, we discussed exclusivity, but nothing was made official..

As Guru stated, jumping into a relationship at this stage would be a BAD move.

Watch and observe the behaviour moving forward.. Take it from there.
 

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Well in a DRUNKEN state, she claimed this man means too much to her.

She also biched and moaned about her having to do all the travel to come see me.

She also cannot see me again for another two weeks due to a family event, which means I have to work around her timetable.

She was drunk.. Not sure what to make of all this shyte!

She even claimed she does not enjoy sex at all...

Damaged goods here.

Should I dump her Ass? Or keep around as plate?
Yep, she's a self sabotager.

She mentally justifies her vocalizations by telling herself that the man who really loves her will love her for who she is.

Pate, plate, plate, plate. Give it enough time and you will continue to see this type of behavior, and that will eventually/naturally push you away from her.

I will say, from my perspective, you seem to be looking for someone to love, someone to give your love to. We all are/I don't think that is a bad thing. Just make sure that person is a quality human being that doesn't behave in a manner that makes you question their loyalty to you.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yep, she's a self sabotager.

She mentally justifies her vocalizations by telling herself that the man who really loves her will love her for who she is.

Pate, plate, plate, plate. Give it enough time and you will continue to see this type of behavior, and that will eventually/naturally push you away from her.

I will say, from my perspective, you seem to be looking for someone to love, someone to give your love to. We all are/I don't think that is a bad thing. Just make sure that person is a quality human being that doesn't behave in a manner that makes you question their loyalty to you.
Well Sazc in morning after her drunken state, she became this nice person again.

And seemed ok about travelling over to see me, and to stop having a male stopping over.

However the milk has already turned sour, I have developed serious doubts about this one.

I think she becomes a different person when drunk.. However I am strictly filing this under PLATE

No talk of relationship whatsoever!
 

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Well in a DRUNKEN state, she claimed this man means too much to her.

She also biched and moaned about her having to do all the travel to come see me.

She also cannot see me again for another two weeks due to a family event, which means I have to work around her timetable.

She was drunk.. Not sure what to make of all this shyte!

She even claimed she does not enjoy sex at all...

Damaged goods here.

Should I dump her Ass? Or keep around as plate?
She disqualified herself as a long term GF. No need to dump her but the exclusivity talk should be off the table.

Nothing needs to be done, just keep banging her if you want to as a plate. She doesn't owe you anything, she isnt your GF. See the title of this post OP...PLATE.
 
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No big deal, just take things with her as they come.

Dont sweat it man.
But she does seems like plate material only.
 

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BTW I ve posted in past re the useless female friends I ve had drop me once they got a bf obviously because he no like. And probably I had poor utility as I don't do things for them.

So obviously plenty of chicks do get it's not good for the bf business
A lot depends on whether or not the boyfriend objects. Some guys are afraid to object (as guru said "insecure about appearing insecure". Or some just think they're so alpha every other guy is a beta orbiter. Some guys genuinely don't care - some are actually appreciative that the other guy takes the girl off their hands for awhile ("I don't want to take her shopping" or whatever).

The biggest red flag in this thread that I see is her confession that she doesn't make a good long term girlfriend.
 

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I kinda side lined the whole issue by specialising in Asian chicks. Biggest supply of attractive right headed chicks I ve ever found. So far never detected any orbiters. Evidently in their culture that marks them as a big slvt.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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amazing how a girl can invite over a dude and a 100+ post thread on the internet happens with guys arguing about it

lololol

i think baldy won this for reactions sake, and he probably banged her to
 

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i think baldy won this for reactions sake, and he probably banged her to
I don't know if he banged her, but it's a little suspicious that they meet up 2-3 times a year. Something about that doesn't sound right.
I'm assuming he lives out of town if she has to put him up for the night.
 

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I don't know if he banged her, but it's a little suspicious that they meet up 2-3 times a year. Something about that doesn't sound right.
I'm assuming he lives out of town if she has to put him up for the night.

Yeh he lives miles away.. So when he comes over for business trips near her area, he stops over.

She seemed rather convincing that nothing has ever happened between them.

She even wants me to come over to meet him.

She also claims, her ex boyfriend of 10 years also knew him and met him, and did not have any issues about him.

This is why she assumed, I would be okay about it too.. She assumed wrong lol

The morning after her drunken state, I played a trick on her.

I told her that in your drunken state, you admitted banging this guy who stops over... I told her that she accidently slipped up and admitted it.

She immediately denied it.. And said I would never admit to that, because nothing has ever happened with this guy.

Anyway she did understand that it doesn't look good with this old man stopping over, especially when pushing for an LTR with me.

All that being said.. The red flags are many at this point, so she can forget about LTR

Plate status only from here on.
 

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I don't know if he banged her, but it's a little suspicious that they meet up 2-3 times a year. Something about that doesn't sound right.
I'm assuming he lives out of town if she has to put him up for the night.
I bet cash exchanges hands.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I kinda side lined the whole issue by specialising in Asian chicks. Biggest supply of attractive right headed chicks I ve ever found. So far never detected any orbiters. Evidently in their culture that marks them as a big slvt.
But then you specialize in banging girls who look like stick figures.
 

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This thread is almost identical to what I dealt with when I dated that BPD. Her supposed platonic male friend sleeps over but nothing happened even though she got wasted. Swears up and down she never slept with him. She wants me to meet him to make me more comfortable, blahh blah blah. Then it mentally mind fuks you how a girl can even think its ok. Then you start to get angry wanting to do the same exact thing to her. The whole situation is just flat out a waste of time and energy.

Girls are master manipulators. They tell you what you want to hear. Don't for a sec think she wouldn't fuk him just because hes old n bald. The fact most in this thread are left wondering if she banged or it should be enough to never go exclusive as she's waving all kind of red flags. Pump n dump, keep as a plate, she isn't worth being taken seriously!

Having read most all your threads since I joined it's clear you attract mentally ill women. Then when a situation happens you make a thread about it like you didn't learn from the last basket case you banged. Crazy in the head crazy in the bed is what you like. Just have fun with them and don't for a sec take them seriously.
 
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This thread is almost identical to what I dealt with when I dated that BPD. Her supposed platonic male friend sleeps over but nothing happened even though she got wasted. Swears up and down she never slept with him. She wants me to meet him to make me more comfortable, blahh blah blah. Then it mentally mind fuks you how a girl can even think its ok. Then you start to get angry wanting to do the same exact thing to her. The whole situation is just flat out a waste of time and energy.

Girls are master manipulators. They tell you what you want to hear. Don't for a sec think she wouldn't fuk him just because hes old n bald. The fact most you are left wondering if she banged or it should be enough to never go exclusive as she's waving all kind of red flags. Pump n dump, keep as a plate, she isn't worth being taken seriously!

Having read most all your threads since I joined it's clear you attract mentally ill women. Then when a situation happens you make a thread about it like you didn't learn from the last basket case you banged. Crazy in the head crazy in the bed is what you like. Just have fun with them and don't for a sec take them seriously.

You have to keep in mind, some chicks are OBLIVIOUS to the norms of dating.

Yes we men think it is flat out wrong, for any dude to come sleep over your girls house.

However some chicks see nothing wrong with a platonic freind stopping over.

Personally I don't buy into this male/female platonic freinds shyte..

The way I see it is, if a chick is relationship worthy, she wouldn't be causing these kind of problems, where the man has to suspect and question everything.

It should be simple.. Anything less than that isn't worth investing in.
 

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If a chick is relationship worthy, she wouldn't be causing these kind of problems, where the man has to suspect and question everything.

It should be simple.. Anything less than that isn't worth investing in.
It is that simple! No time for drama!
 
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