"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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vorbis

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Ok lately, I feel talking to girls on the phone is killing me. In January, I got 4 phone numbers. (It was my first month over here. Still getting settled) Out of these, only one led to a date. 2 of the others though sounded enthuastic in person but got distant on the phone.

I made a mistake with the first girl in not making definite plans. She seemed up for drinks but wasn't sure if she was off on the Friday night. I foolishly told her to ring me if she was free rather than just picking a bar and getting her to ring me if she was working. She never called and didn't respond to a voicemail I left the following week.

The second girl actually made plans to go out on a Friday night but the phone convo itself was rather stilited and we didn't seem to have much rapport. She left a voicemail on a Friday saying she wanted to reschedule due to a family emergency. I left her a voicemail suggesting a time the following week. She never rang me back and also didn't answer a second voicemail a few days later.

Basically what should you be trying to achieve on the phone? I find it hard to pick up topics of conversation on the phone? I usually just try to set up a date and leave it at that.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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foomee

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When you're calling up a girl, you're doing it for a reason. Quickly fulfill that reason and get it over with. Make quick chat, make her laugh a little, then arrange a date or get together. Guys call people for a typical reason, to ask something, to hang out, anything... you never see a guy just calling to say hi.
 

wheelin&dealin

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1 for 4 ain't that bad. The more girls you ask out, the more dates you get. The better you get at gauging interest levels, the higher your success rate. Keep mingling with the ladies and you'll be on fire in no time.
 

Warlord

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Originally posted by foomee
When you're calling up a girl, you're doing it for a reason. Quickly fulfill that reason and get it over with. Make quick chat, make her laugh a little, then arrange a date or get together. Guys call people for a typical reason, to ask something, to hang out, anything... you never see a guy just calling to say hi.
I agree and disagree with what you said. When a girl gives you her number, she wants you to ask her out on a date.

HOWEVER. Rapport is also important, sometimes saying hi here and there increases or decreases interest (depending on how the conversation went) There is nothing wrong with talking about nothing for 10 min. If it went good, a future date or even a first date chance increases from 50% to 75%.

You seem to forget that girls and guys may have similar logic, but they do not operate like guys do. Guys = Yes/No. Girls = Ehhh depends how much I like the person(s) or what I can get out of it.
 

satyriasis

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Originally posted by Warlord
When a girl gives you her number, she wants you to ask her out on a date.
so your saying every girl that gives there # is expecting a date straight up front?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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