Ok Im a naturaly confidence guy and when I meet the girl in real life I have no problem talking to her,touching her,but on the phone I normaly dont know what to talk about and its awkard any tips on what to talk about on the phone?
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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
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You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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How about asking her out? 
Well yeah I will do that but its what to talk about I mean I just cant suddenly call her and say lets go out,she has to get to know me and I need some tips on what to talk about then ask her lets go out.Francisco d'Anconia said:How about asking her out?
Francisco d'Anconia
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Should have gotten rapport with her before getting her number then this wouldn't be an issue.
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Maybe if you have some trouble thinking of things to say, then you can take out a paper and have some default topics. This type of crutch might work short-term, but long-term you need to be able to do this creation on the fly.
If one topic runs dry (preferably before), then just transition into something else or revive the other thread. You just need to talk to more people on the phone. Go sign up on some random dating site or go out and get random #s from people to practice on.
It is a really bad idea to try memorizing ' routines' or things to say. I have some things I use all the the time sure, but I never try to memorize them word for word. I also only use them when it would be natural for them to come up. If you're ever thinking "which routine should I use", then the routines are hurting you. You've lost the natural flow of the conversation. Maybe practice taping your calls for review is a good idea, but not trying to run a script. Talking to people will be a lot of fun once you learn to let go.
If one topic runs dry (preferably before), then just transition into something else or revive the other thread. You just need to talk to more people on the phone. Go sign up on some random dating site or go out and get random #s from people to practice on.
It is a really bad idea to try memorizing ' routines' or things to say. I have some things I use all the the time sure, but I never try to memorize them word for word. I also only use them when it would be natural for them to come up. If you're ever thinking "which routine should I use", then the routines are hurting you. You've lost the natural flow of the conversation. Maybe practice taping your calls for review is a good idea, but not trying to run a script. Talking to people will be a lot of fun once you learn to let go.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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yehh this is a cool thread... like last night i jut cold-approached a group of girls... and number closed .... i texted the girl a little while after so she has my #.... but now ill probably call her 2m but dont rly know how to start the convo or w/e... and how to lead it into a date or w/e
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bump ppl.... this would rly be helpful
This thread reminds me of the guy on the "40 Year Old Virgin" movie when he couldn't find the willpower within to speak to the lady that he eventually married on the telephone.
I hate speaking to girls on the phone myself, I'm glad that I am married and don't have to do it anymore.
I would suggest that you take a deep breathe as you are dialing her number then talk in the deepest voice possible and focus on positive things when you are speaking to her.
I hate speaking to girls on the phone myself, I'm glad that I am married and don't have to do it anymore.
I would suggest that you take a deep breathe as you are dialing her number then talk in the deepest voice possible and focus on positive things when you are speaking to her.
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lol ill try it ...
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I hate talkin on the phone too,im better at it now once i know the person but i still have to write down topics on paper just in case, i might start of usin a couple but then if u guys have any chemistry whatsoever....u wont be usin that paper but for maybe just to gett started. If u come to a point where its really akward silence or u can sense akward silence coming i always say "let me call u back" or "i gotta go" and end on a high note. That also seems like sometimes it makes em a little jealous. Or depending on the chick shell think its rude and not appreciate it.
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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
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