"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Perfect example of how NOT to act around women

devils3777

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Where I work there is a couple who used to go out (they are both in their mid twenties I think), but it ended a few years ago.

This girl is very cute and the guy not so great looking. This girl has a new boyfriend and apparantley he still likes her.

They don't work in the same department, but on the same floor. Whenever I am on their floor (3rd floor) he is ALWAYS no more than 20 feet from her and seems to follow her around like a lost puppy dog. He even PARKS his vehicle next to hers and they always coincidentally arive at work at the same time.

I think this guy is sitting their waiting for her to breakup with her boyfriend and hoping in a supplicating fashion that she will take him back.

It is actually quite sad.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Crazy Asian

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it's exactly like what i did first 2 years in high school.

it's freaking sad.
 

Bluesteak

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Help a bro out and tell him to read up on the dj forums and see the light!
I wish someone would have done me the favor 3 years ago..
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ljm

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Guide him here...it needs 2 be done, u would want the same done for u if it were you in his shoes.
 

Smack

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devils3777 said:
Where I work there is a couple who used to go out (they are both in their mid twenties I think), but it ended a few years ago.

This girl is very cute and the guy not so great looking. This girl has a new boyfriend and apparantley he still likes her.

They don't work in the same department, but on the same floor. Whenever I am on their floor (3rd floor) he is ALWAYS no more than 20 feet from her and seems to follow her around like a lost puppy dog. He even PARKS his vehicle next to hers and they always coincidentally arive at work at the same time.

I think this guy is sitting their waiting for her to breakup with her boyfriend and hoping in a supplicating fashion that she will take him back.

It is actually quite sad.
You shouldn't stalk your ex in the hope she'll take you back. This is hardly a ground-breaking new tip.
 

Sandow

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Let's try and keep this an underground community.
 

Warrior74

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Sandow said:
Let's try and keep this an underground community.
doesn't matter. you can lead a horse to water...

tried to turn a few people on to this site...they get real defensive.
 

Smack

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"Unplugging chumps from the Matrix is dirty business"

- Rollo Tomassi
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Usually you have to want to change yourself, and it's only then that you seek this site out.

Most of us are here because something went terribly wrong and we realized that the problem was with us, so we decided to do something about it...
 
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