"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Party was a damn sausage fest... and girl has BF!

sw20racer

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 18, 2004
Messages
19
Reaction score
0
Age
45
Location
Midwest
So, I called up this girl to see what was up for the night. She said there was a house party going on late that night(she told me one of her 'guy friends'-already sounding bad- from high school just rented a house and was celebrating)and that I should come along. I told her, "Ok, but you call me when you're ready." She did call me up, an hour later than expected though.

I meet up with her at the house; she got out of her car with another couple and her boyfriend(I didn't know he was till later on). Go in the house and start talking to other guys in there... didn't know anybody but the girl. As more people come over, it is starting to look bad. All I see are a bunch of guys... I think the total number was something like 5 girls and 15 guys or so.

4 of the girls were pretty hot but they all had their boyfriends with them. I also barely got to talk to the girl that invited me along... she was too busy talking to everybody else or smoking out in the cold. We talked for maybe 15-20 minutes at the most... and nothing that indicated IL.

I think I actually did better with the other hot girls, but they were all pretty much wasted(so was I). All the girls eventually left with their boyfriends.

I left at 5-6 in the morning with a hangover and no new numbers. Damn, trying to use the girl as a 'hookup' to her other friends didn't seem to work... as they were all taken anyway.

Do you guys think I should still keep in touch with her? I don't ever plan on calling her again to do anything.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

Read more...

coldcoal

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Mar 17, 2001
Messages
319
Reaction score
1
You got nothing out of it, unless you made new friends.
 

sw20racer

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 18, 2004
Messages
19
Reaction score
0
Age
45
Location
Midwest
Some of the guys were pretty cool... we ended up talking about guy stuff, like cars and home theaters. I could picture myself hanging out with them... I DO need more friends.

but as for the girl's BF, I don't really want to know him too well, if at all.
 

coldcoal

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Mar 17, 2001
Messages
319
Reaction score
1
It's alright. She was vague and you found the bottom line. If you can see yourself hanging with these guys, then go back and hang with them. Get to know who they know. As far as the girl, toss her aside "romatically" for now, just use her invites to expand your circle of friends.

You don't have to make only female friends to meet more females.
 
Top