"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Part I - Your princess is in another castle! 40 Common cases reviewed!

loveshogun

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Correction, Nismo. All of your princesses are in MY castle.

Haha. Good post, bud. All of our new year members would do well to run with this advice. Specifically the four things we should ALWAYS be doing.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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This site has some great threads and this is a succinct version!
well worth the read. many thanks Nis !


CuriousGirl said:
5. The game is unfair - I'd disagree. Oh I would, wouldn't I. But generally I think women see it differently as they don't want sex quick and easy, most want a loving relationship quick and easy, which obviously isn't. So therefore see it as they having drawn the short straw.
It can't hurt to keep that in mind, and it can be used to your advantage in the same way that women use the guys-want-sex thing to their advantage.
Dating/the game is fair when the people in question want the same things from each other.
they may not want quick sex, but they have the option and its an option they take up from time to time. have you ever had a one nighter? or sex within the first couple of dates? could you go out and get laid within 4 hours of reading this?
thats the point, the majority of guys cant, take the blinkers off darling
 

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betheman said:
This site has some great threads and this is a succinct version!
well worth the read. many thanks Nis !




they may not want quick sex, but they have the option and its an option they take up from time to time. have you ever had a one nighter? or sex within the first couple of dates? could you go out and get laid within 4 hours of reading this?
thats the point, the majority of guys cant, take the blinkers off darling
Agreed. While men do hold the relationship card (sort of) and women hold the sex card (absolutely) it's not equal.

Women can get sex as fast as ordering a pizza. Most guys couldn't get a girlfriend/relationship in two or three weeks of trying.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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People here push Lamborghini's to clubs? No wonder I'm not seeing results.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Mike32ct said:
Agreed. While men do hold the relationship card (sort of) and women hold the sex card (absolutely) it's not equal.

Women can get sex as fast as ordering a pizza. Most guys couldn't get a girlfriend/relationship in two or three weeks of trying.
I'm glad this thread is stickied!!!

Mike, this here is totally true, yet lots of guys here delude themselves into thinking otherwise.

When you go against reality, reality wins.
 
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I really liked this post. It's humorous but meaningful, direct but insightful, and realistic without sounding bitter.
 

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This thread was so well received that I had to write a sequel! Many thanks to those who read and understand it well!

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=192273

There will still be posts here that have lots of whining, worrying, etc. and some people just don't get it. :rolleyes: Yes, I will review some of these cases.

There is no cure for stupidity. :crazy:
 

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Whenever I feel like I'm losing a bit of confidence, I'm always hesitant to come to these boards cause (for some reason) I think it'll bring me further down...and I'm always proven wrong. Thanks for the post, reignited the spark (it never should have gone out in the first place)!! :woo:, repped
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Mike32ct said:
Agreed. While men do hold the relationship card (sort of) and women hold the sex card (absolutely) it's not equal.

Women can get sex as fast as ordering a pizza. Most guys couldn't get a girlfriend/relationship in two or three weeks of trying.
Yeah but sex with random dudes who don't understand them or their needs will probably not satisfy them.

Seems obvious really, a lot of women like the comfort of a man they like and trust just as much as sex. For many the two go hand in hand. You're viewing it too much from a male perspective, women are completely different creatures.

Too many people on this site think things are so unfair and that women have it great, well guess what women have to deal with periods every month, hormones, having babies, being judged by friends and family constantly against the template of an "ideal woman", beauty magazines, overly competitive/judgemental friends, putting on weight easily, jeleousy which seems far more deadly then what us guys experience...the list goes on.

I'm a dude and no way would i ever want to be reborn as a chick!! Wake up guys and stop complaining.

Great post btw OP!
 

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Viagra4Soul said:
All your princesses belong us.
You stole my thought! Haha.

Kudos on the post nismo.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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