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ot going in for a kiss on the first date?

chrisgoodrich25

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if you take a girl out on a first date...and don't kiss her..just because you don't want to yet..for whatever reason.and she was giving hints that she did want/ expect you to try and kiss her...would this ruin the opertunity for a second date?
 

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Why don't you want to kiss her? I'm just curious.

Now back to your question. No it probably would ruin your chances for a second date but you can't wait too long to try and kiss her, you could accidentally LJBF yourself. So if you don't try and kiss her on the first date make sure you do on the second.
 

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chrisgoodrich25 said:
if you take a girl out on a first date...and don't kiss her..just because you don't want to yet..for whatever reason.and she was giving hints that she did want/ expect you to try and kiss her...would this ruin the opertunity for a second date?
Why do you want "the opertunity for a second date" anyway? That is not a good frame. You give them the opportunity, not the other way around.

If she is giving you hints, and you "don't want to yet", then turn around and want an opportunity, you are just playing games and asking to get into little high school head games that will just delay whatever would have happened a lot sooner.

That being said, if she's really into you, you don't need to be given an opportunity, she should be wondering if you will give her the opportunity, so it won't hurt you, as long sa she doesn't hink you were just too chicken to kiss her or didn't see the obvious signals.
 

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Kal0051 said:
Why don't you want to kiss her? I'm just curious.

Now back to your question. No it probably would ruin your chances for a second date but you can't wait too long to try and kiss her, you could accidentally LJBF yourself. So if you don't try and kiss her on the first date make sure you do on the second.
to be honest im not sure..i get fairly nervous on first dates..it been a long time since i've kissed anyone other than my girlfreind of 7 years that i broke up with 4-5mo ago and just kinda out of practice..I talked with some guys at work and thy pointed out that they think she thought i was having a bad time..and ended the date prematurley..after hanging for 3 hours we left the resturaunt and i wanted to take her out for some drinks..but the check from the resturaunt just about cashed out any extra money i had..and she told me before we went out that she had to work the next day..i asked if she was tired..and she said no....right away she said she guessed she could go home..(i took as time to take her home...) My freinds think i made it seem as though i didn't have a good time by asking if she was tired..ha ha..poor thing..then i shook her hand when we got back to her house..she insisted on a hug and I took off..
i CALLED HER THE NEXT DAY AND TOLD HER TO CALL ME BACK..which she did..but i was exercising and missed the call..I tried calling her back that night..no answer..I tried one more time last night no answer or reply...I figure maybe shes a little confused so i would wait a couple of days before calling again..also her birthdays this week and i want to wait till afterwords (i'm not sure the day) because i dont know what i would have to do in that situation.
 

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First, why'd you shake her hand? Shaking hands is for people that you don't want to touch but have to to seem friendly.

Always hug girls. Unless it's a professional setting or it's a girl you don't want to touch, always go in for the hug. Girls like hugs, and if you act like it's casual then it's no big deal.

Second, why didn't you go in for the kiss? You're on a date, so that clearly means that she is (or at one point was) interested in you. It also means that you are interested in her. So why not go for the kiss? Were you afraid of being rejected?
 

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If you didn't want to kiss her, then you never would have taken her out. Even if you're not in the mood (I have no idea why that would be the case), you better kiss her anyway or she's going to think you're fucking weird, or too much of a pussy to make a move.
 

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This guy shook her hand instead of kissing her...

Wow. If I was watching this exchange I would have *****slapped you.
 

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Kiss on the first date?
My goal is to bang her on the first date!

Why the hell would I take her out, spend money on her(even if its a 20$ date its 20$ that could have been used for other stuff) and act like I give 2 fvcks about her opinions and beliefs for any other reason than the above?

Date -- Isolate -- Poke her face!!
 
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