"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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ONS, parties, etc. w/o alcohol. Is it even possible?

ImTheDoubleGreatest!

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I often see the advice of "take her out for a few drinks and escalate" thrown around which is fine and dandy, but what if you don't drink? Not even because you can't for whatever reason, but you just wont, even if given the opportunity. Is it still possible to live the so called bachelor's life as a partier without liquor? What's your guys' thoughts on this?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Alcohol lowers inhibitions. It is easy to seduce women who have been drinking. But you can do this without alcohol... done it many times. The process is the same but success rate is lower and time to close is longer.
 

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Yes it is possible. I game sober and have gotten many one night stands when the girl was sober. I did escalate though. Although it is easier when the girl has had a few drinks but not impossible. I don't drink. I think the drinks might relax you and make you less stressed. I am working on sober game because I want to be comfortable in any situation. At anytime of the day. Sometimes if i take a girl out for drinks I order one drink and just usually take a few sips. If girl says anything I tell them if I am pulled over drunk I would lose my job which is true.
 

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I never drink. I drink only some glasses of coke only to make me relax a bit. It's no different if you know the moves. Getting drunk in my opinion has the most downsides. When you're horny and drunk , you might even end up fcking a cactus. Not to mention the other day you feel absolutely sh!ty.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Why drink?

If she does, you already have the advantage. Let her indulge in the common norm of consuming alcohol to forget her insecurities, her troubles and her life.

Let her wallow in her own pity and simply wait until the right moment to strike.

One can't often tell when the shark kills. One is only able to see the blood of its victims.

Its victims consume themselves in desperation and will venture into anything as a last resort. Translate that into an emotional, insecure girl who drinks as a way to masquerade her own inhibitions and you'll only have to lie in wait for the right moment to pounce.

Be as enigmatic as a shadow & be as quick as lighting.
 

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Not only alchool reduces inhibitions but the fact of being drinking gives the girl something to blame if she decides to lower her inhibitions willingly, it takes away the "slvt factor", it takes away the "easy girl" factor cause she can blame the alchool even if she is sober.

Anyway sure you can do it without alchool however it takes MORE, more time, more work and it takes her interest in you to be more than what would be the minimum while tipsy.
 

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Not only alchool reduces inhibitions but the fact of being drinking gives the girl something to blame if she decides to lower her inhibitions willingly, it takes away the "slvt factor", it takes away the "easy girl" factor cause she can blame the alchool even if she is sober.

Anyway sure you can do it without alchool however it takes MORE, more time, more work and it takes her interest in you to be more than what would be the minimum while tipsy.
I have has instances of seducing a non drunk woman and then she wouldn't see me again because she was ashamed. This was on the first date.
 

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Can you have sex with party girls and not drink? Yes. These girls will need a rime home eventually.
 

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If you are really hot and the girls are horny enough, definitely. I had a buddy who was from an Eastern European country and could have literally been a male model...women threw themselves at him everytime we went out...there were a number of times he was banging stone cold sober chicks in various places while we were out...a waitress on "break" in the restaurant bathroom, a mall employee in their store's changing room, a bartender behind the dumpster outside the bar...and these are the just the times I was with him...

He was the male version of a HB 9 that could walk outside and get sex whenever they wanted it. It was cool hanging out with him tho cause he'd always go for the hottest chick(well, a lot of times they would actually go for him) and then I'd be the "cool" dude hanging out with him that would end up banging one of the friends...best wingman I ever had, lol....can't tell you the number of times we hung out at either his house or a random chick's house with a few of their friends after being out somewhere...good times man, good times...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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If you are really hot and the girls are horny enough, definitely. I had a buddy who was from an Eastern European country and could have literally been a male model...women threw themselves at him everytime we went out...there were a number of times he was banging stone cold sober chicks in various places while we were out...a waitress on "break" in the restaurant bathroom, a mall employee in their store's changing room, a bartender behind the dumpster outside the bar...and these are the just the times I was with him...

He was the male version of a HB 9 that could walk outside and get sex whenever they wanted it. It was cool hanging out with him tho cause he'd always go for the hottest chick(well, a lot of times they would actually go for him) and then I'd be the "cool" dude hanging out with him that would end up banging one of the friends...best wingman I ever had, lol....can't tell you the number of times we hung out at either his house or a random chick's house with a few of their friends after being out somewhere...good times man, good times...
Sounds like a stud hahaha. But I'm talking about for most people. As in the average person, not a model.
 
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