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ONS, parties, etc. w/o alcohol. Is it even possible?

ImTheDoubleGreatest!

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I often see the advice of "take her out for a few drinks and escalate" thrown around which is fine and dandy, but what if you don't drink? Not even because you can't for whatever reason, but you just wont, even if given the opportunity. Is it still possible to live the so called bachelor's life as a partier without liquor? What's your guys' thoughts on this?
 

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Alcohol lowers inhibitions. It is easy to seduce women who have been drinking. But you can do this without alcohol... done it many times. The process is the same but success rate is lower and time to close is longer.
 

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Yes it is possible. I game sober and have gotten many one night stands when the girl was sober. I did escalate though. Although it is easier when the girl has had a few drinks but not impossible. I don't drink. I think the drinks might relax you and make you less stressed. I am working on sober game because I want to be comfortable in any situation. At anytime of the day. Sometimes if i take a girl out for drinks I order one drink and just usually take a few sips. If girl says anything I tell them if I am pulled over drunk I would lose my job which is true.
 

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I never drink. I drink only some glasses of coke only to make me relax a bit. It's no different if you know the moves. Getting drunk in my opinion has the most downsides. When you're horny and drunk , you might even end up fcking a cactus. Not to mention the other day you feel absolutely sh!ty.
 

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Why drink?

If she does, you already have the advantage. Let her indulge in the common norm of consuming alcohol to forget her insecurities, her troubles and her life.

Let her wallow in her own pity and simply wait until the right moment to strike.

One can't often tell when the shark kills. One is only able to see the blood of its victims.

Its victims consume themselves in desperation and will venture into anything as a last resort. Translate that into an emotional, insecure girl who drinks as a way to masquerade her own inhibitions and you'll only have to lie in wait for the right moment to pounce.

Be as enigmatic as a shadow & be as quick as lighting.
 

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Not only alchool reduces inhibitions but the fact of being drinking gives the girl something to blame if she decides to lower her inhibitions willingly, it takes away the "slvt factor", it takes away the "easy girl" factor cause she can blame the alchool even if she is sober.

Anyway sure you can do it without alchool however it takes MORE, more time, more work and it takes her interest in you to be more than what would be the minimum while tipsy.
 

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Not only alchool reduces inhibitions but the fact of being drinking gives the girl something to blame if she decides to lower her inhibitions willingly, it takes away the "slvt factor", it takes away the "easy girl" factor cause she can blame the alchool even if she is sober.

Anyway sure you can do it without alchool however it takes MORE, more time, more work and it takes her interest in you to be more than what would be the minimum while tipsy.
I have has instances of seducing a non drunk woman and then she wouldn't see me again because she was ashamed. This was on the first date.
 

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Can you have sex with party girls and not drink? Yes. These girls will need a rime home eventually.
 

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If you are really hot and the girls are horny enough, definitely. I had a buddy who was from an Eastern European country and could have literally been a male model...women threw themselves at him everytime we went out...there were a number of times he was banging stone cold sober chicks in various places while we were out...a waitress on "break" in the restaurant bathroom, a mall employee in their store's changing room, a bartender behind the dumpster outside the bar...and these are the just the times I was with him...

He was the male version of a HB 9 that could walk outside and get sex whenever they wanted it. It was cool hanging out with him tho cause he'd always go for the hottest chick(well, a lot of times they would actually go for him) and then I'd be the "cool" dude hanging out with him that would end up banging one of the friends...best wingman I ever had, lol....can't tell you the number of times we hung out at either his house or a random chick's house with a few of their friends after being out somewhere...good times man, good times...
 

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If you are really hot and the girls are horny enough, definitely. I had a buddy who was from an Eastern European country and could have literally been a male model...women threw themselves at him everytime we went out...there were a number of times he was banging stone cold sober chicks in various places while we were out...a waitress on "break" in the restaurant bathroom, a mall employee in their store's changing room, a bartender behind the dumpster outside the bar...and these are the just the times I was with him...

He was the male version of a HB 9 that could walk outside and get sex whenever they wanted it. It was cool hanging out with him tho cause he'd always go for the hottest chick(well, a lot of times they would actually go for him) and then I'd be the "cool" dude hanging out with him that would end up banging one of the friends...best wingman I ever had, lol....can't tell you the number of times we hung out at either his house or a random chick's house with a few of their friends after being out somewhere...good times man, good times...
Sounds like a stud hahaha. But I'm talking about for most people. As in the average person, not a model.
 
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