"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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tdotseoul

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Ok so I've always wanted to **** a girl that I met online. So I have started messaging this girl through this site.

I messaged her and she responded within 15 minutes and her response was really good. She asked me interesting questions and answered mine really well.
So, it's 11 pm right now. When's the best time to respond back?

Here's my logic.

Immediately: pro - because we are able to maintain the connection we have but con - she might think I'm desperate.

Reply tomorrow: pro - she'll think that I'm giving her space and that I wasn't waiting for her reply desperately but con - we might lose the the connection we had through our first introduction.

What do you think?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Iceberg

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Loosen up, buddy. It's some broad you haven't even met, and you're already worried about how long to reply to her messages.

Worry about this stuff when you get her number.
 

tdotseoul

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I couldn't careless about what will happene with this girl.
I was asking about people's philosophy on replying back.
When would be a good time, etc.

The story is the content we could use to discuss.

And if you're not going to answer the question directly why do you even bother participating in a thread?
 

TillTheEndOfTime

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tdotseoul said:
Ok so I've always wanted to **** a girl that I met online. So I have started messaging this girl through this site.

I messaged her and she responded within 15 minutes and her response was really good. She asked me interesting questions and answered mine really well.
So, it's 11 pm right now. When's the best time to respond back?

Here's my logic.

Immediately: pro - because we are able to maintain the connection we have but con - she might think I'm desperate.

Reply tomorrow: pro - she'll think that I'm giving her space and that I wasn't waiting for her reply desperately but con - we might lose the the connection we had through our first introduction.

What do you think?
What's "this site"? Are we talking online dating here or what? That affects how you approach the situation.

If we are talking about online dating sites like POF, you message fast and hard. If you wait 24 hours, she would have fielded 30 messages by then and won't even remember you.
 

tdotseoul

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
What's "this site"? Are we talking online dating here or what? That affects how you approach the situation.

If we are talking about online dating sites like POF, you message fast and hard. If you wait 24 hours, she would have fielded 30 messages by then and won't even remember you.
Tis true.
It's not POF haha it's a site where people don't get messages much.
It's CouchSurfing
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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tdotseoul said:
Ok so I've always wanted to **** a girl that I met online. So I have started messaging this girl through this site.

I messaged her and she responded within 15 minutes and her response was really good. She asked me interesting questions and answered mine really well.
So, it's 11 pm right now. When's the best time to respond back?

Here's my logic.

Immediately: pro - because we are able to maintain the connection we have but con - she might think I'm desperate.

Reply tomorrow: pro - she'll think that I'm giving her space and that I wasn't waiting for her reply desperately but con - we might lose the the connection we had through our first introduction.

What do you think?[/QUOTF

I guess you will never know for sure when is the right time.

But you could try to write fast.

If she slow down the answers.. slow down forgive and next her.

If she really care she will respond..
 
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