"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I've been practicing with online game lately, but I have encountered a problem. Could someone teach me how to get the situation from online to real life, and some things that I can use.


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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Ask them if they want to chat or text within 2 or 3 emails. If they flake then you haven't wasted your time telling them all your childhood stories and all that. Often they will be waiting for you to make the first move. After you establish rapport over text or chat, ask them out, during the first conversation. Then you can get an idea of what their interest level is. Some people who are online just want attention, and can go on exchanging emails forever. Waste of time.

What do you mean by, "things you can use"? Like openers? Strategies?
 
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omkara said:
Ask them if they want to chat or text within 2 or 3 emails. If they flake then you haven't wasted your time telling them all your childhood stories and all that. Often they will be waiting for you to make the first move. After you establish rapport over text or chat, ask them out, during the first conversation. Then you can get an idea of what their interest level is. Some people who are online just want attention, and can go on exchanging emails forever. Waste of time.

What do you mean by, "things you can use"? Like openers? Strategies?
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Yeah you can post some things that we can use openers and Strategies
 
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The best advice I can give is don't spend too much time chatting online. I always try to number close within 2-3 message exchanges.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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The Asian Lover said:
I enjoy chatting with you.

Let's meet for coffee.
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Awesome.

Coffeeshops and tattoo parlors are my favorite first time meet spots. They're well lit and bustling with people which keep you and her both feeling secure.

Never buy dinner on a first encounter. Coffee and a scone will set you back $10 at most and you can easily spread some dialogue together.
 
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Eh, from my experience, you can always tell the hot chicks online from the ugly ones... The hot ones are hesitant to meet up so quickly. Ive dated a lot of chicks this year as I was divorced in February, and 5 of those chicks that Ive dated thus far were from the internet. Going from email to "instant messenger" or whatever is the right idea... you can usually pull that off in just a few emails, but you will find that you must spend a bit more time on the "instant messenger" side before meeting up. I always prefer to go from email to facebook as fb has an instant messenger built in. This is good bc my fb page builds rapport... the chicks see that other hot chicks are writing on my wall, etc. That automatically sets a more comfortable mood. Then I go from fb to texting in just a few convos...

Austin
 
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The Asian Lover said:
I enjoy chatting with you.

Let's meet for coffee.
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You'll notice that this type of stuff, moving it on will seperate the chicks that want their online egos stroked from those that actually want to meet up.
 
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KarmaSutra said:
Awesome.

Coffeeshops and tattoo parlors are my favorite first time meet spots. They're well lit and bustling with people which keep you and her both feeling secure.

Never buy dinner on a first encounter. Coffee and a scone will set you back $10 at most and you can easily spread some dialogue together.
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Fo sure!

I shake my head when I hear of guys that spend over $100 on a first date. I won't take a girl out to the dinner unless she gives me a passionate kiss.
 
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scrouds said:
You'll notice that this type of stuff, moving it on will seperate the chicks that want their online egos stroked from those that actually want to meet up.
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Exactly!

There are a lot of attention *****s on online dating sites. Moving it to a coffee date right away screens them out and saves you time.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I should add that I've played around with this stuff before. Doesn't matter how long you stoke the online attention ho's ego, she won't go out. Could be one back and forth messaging, or a dozen. Soon as you move to bring it into the real world, she'll either stop responding or say no, flake, etc.

Also any chick that posts contact info on the free sites is either desperatly fat, a hooker, or spam.

In addition to coffee places (haven't done tattoo parlors, its not my scene) I'll also invite to a local bar for a beer.

What i've noticed is the best formula is this:

* Opening message
* Her response
* You respond
* She fires back
* You send coffee request
* Set up date/time

If they are responding quick, I usually get IM instead of coffee request and make sure to (or at least attempt) set up a date. Chances are you won't IM them again, and if so, you're steeply rolling down the hill.
 
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