"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Online Dating - First Dates, looking for advice

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Jifto

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I've never done the online dating thing before, but jumped on after ghosting a pretty terrible HB8. In my first week I did pretty well and have 3 dates lined up for this coming week. I'm not that attracted to any of these girls, but they are all *ok*. I'm looking to just get better at this game.

That said, does anyone have any advice / strategy on what to do on these dates. Big "DO NOT DOs" or "MUST DOs"? I've dated a dozen people, but never cold opens like this.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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custardpie

custardpie

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Meet them at a bar and have a couple of drinks with them. Don't buy them dinner or anything like that.
Afterwards take them back to your place and bang. Done.
Also, stop referring to them as 'dates' especially if you're not that attracted to them and only looking to get your **** wet. It's a meeting to find out if they're crazy/fvckable or not and then you make your decision on wether to take them home based on that. The vast majority of women on OLD are only good for fvcking, remember that.
 
cola

cola

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Online dates..
Happy hour wings and drinks. Bill should be 35$ flat.
 
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