mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
The dates are tuned to do things she wants to do.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Online dating experts, I need your help
- Thread starter bigdave17
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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9 pages worth of hand jobs for BigDave17 here and he's asked ONE woman out for a date so far, WTF? I ask women out just about every single time there's a match. Max three messages before I tell her to meet (cuts out the game players, fake profiles etc). I don't sit there anal-yze anything before I meet her. Men have to play the numbers game so there's no time for that. After I meet her I decide if 1) she's a ONS 2) she's a FWB 3) LTR material and then proceed accordingly.
I've only had 3 decent women interested in me and I think I've sent out maybe 50-60 messages? The problem is the vast majority of my messages aren't even being read. I've had a few others interested but they were garbage
both my 2 main pics got a 7-7.6 on photofeeler for attractiveness. One got a 5.6 for trustworthy and other got a 9.5 for trust worthy
sazc
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PLEASE Max 3 exchanges!!
I've got some d1psh1t texting pictures of hump day camels, taco Tuesday food, asking if I'm a vegan, etc and he still hasn't pulled the trigger and asked for the meet.
I'm getting annoyed and considering ghosting
Do NOT drag messaging out. It gets booooorrriiiinnnggggg
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
Then just ask him when y'all are gonna go get those tacos and if he's not a virgin he'll take it from there
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I agree, say something... sometimes women make it so hard for us, that when we have one in front of who's ready to make it easy, we miss the boat lol
my problem has been the lack of women interested. I just started talking to the italian chick and got a date out of it in a week.
both my main pics were a 7 to 7.6 on photofeeler. I guess i need pics that range in 9 to 10 range
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Nope you need ypur game to rise. Men who look worse than you clean up. The world will interact with you different when your consistently fvcking.
You've gotta be patient online. Just don't delete your profile and keep at it. You never know what may happen. Sometimes they message you back like a week later...
and take it one woman at a time dave. Practice and build with the ones you have while you try to get more. You wouldn't even be able to handle talking to 10 women at once, so why are you in a rush to have so many women after you
there is no game with online dating dude. Its all about pics
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
my ego makes me think i should have 20 women interested in me, lol
taiyuu_otoko
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sazc
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I'm not really interested. I didn't think I would be, but figured I'd give him the chance and maybe we would find a spark.
Taco Tuesday pictures and hump day camels as openers (instead of just trying to kick of a convo) yawn.....
Oh, and he made sure to confirm that I was an affectionate and passionate person, because he is, and he's looking for someone who also it. Translation: hey, you, complete stranger, do you like to fuk and be physical? Cuz I like to fuk and be physical, and I think it's appropriate to ask that to a stranger, before I even have met her to see if there is chemistry ...
Any port in the storm will do, apparently....
Don't think that way, because then you'll start asking yourself "why don't I have 20 women after me?" and that will turn ego into anxiety, and depression... women don't define us. The fact that women are part of what you consider something to have ego about, shows you think too much of them. It should just be something to do for fun and kill time, like a hobby. No pressure... finding your dream woman to marry is just a bonus if it happens
you have a million dudes messaging you, why bother if you're not interested?
is he a legit 9 to 10/10?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Alot of females are bypassing 9 and 10 guys because they want to be the attractive one in the relationship.
sazc
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No, he's a 6/7. I'm old enough to know not to base my dating life on looks alone. I even give room for body, as long as they aren't too far gone, and are heathy which that they will hold at their weight.
I extended my last post to include the mention that I have him a chance to see if maybe they're wild be a spark or connection.
Dave, Dave, Dave, quit kissing the mirror for a second and realize it matters little what your self inflated worth may be to your twisted lizard brain. We all realize you are a scared little man who has no game, delusional self image and little if any success in the world of women. Understand that your reek of desperation will permeate all interactions. And you will come up with some excuse to protect your fragile narcissistic ego when your dream girl rejects your fantasized romance. Be prepared fellow readers for pages of Dave generated denials and spin.
sazc
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And, unfortunately, my experience with that dynamic is that I end up with an insecure dude who self sabotages
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.