Ok, I've really got the hots for this local singer here. She is freakin beautiful to me, but I have never actually met her. I plan on going to one of her shows sometime though. I guess to alot of guys she might just be "average" but I think she is hot. One of my female friends was like, "I could definitely see you getting with her." I think I have "bigged" this one up so much though that I don't knwo what to say when I finally do meet her. SHe is very popular, and I am pretty unknown. I play in a band, but we ahven't taken off like hers has. I do know this...that she has some sort of "fear of intimacy" problem and is still a virgin. I'm not a virgin, but I do have a problem letting people get close to me. I really want to meet this girl, and I think she would like me but not really sure how to go about doing it. I feel like I am really bigging it up but I need to stop because I could end up getting rejected.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Oneitis?
- Thread starter Rhino22
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Exhumed
Senior Don Juan
Talk with her about music, you have something in common. Don't sound like a fan, musicians don't often sleep with their fans.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Are you just feeling special because she is so popular and giving you some attention? If she wasn't a "star" would you feel the same about her?
I checked out her pics, website and some videos. She has some talent and after looking at her more she becomes more attractive. Now I think I'M in love with her! FVck!! Just kidding
In my opinion you will need to be a superstar yourself to get a chick like this. She is obviously full of confidence and you need to match that. She is most likely surrounded by super confident guys already. How is your confidence?
I checked out her pics, website and some videos. She has some talent and after looking at her more she becomes more attractive. Now I think I'M in love with her! FVck!! Just kidding
In my opinion you will need to be a superstar yourself to get a chick like this. She is obviously full of confidence and you need to match that. She is most likely surrounded by super confident guys already. How is your confidence?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Hey Rhino I used to play in a rock/reggae band too. We became quite popular locally and I know what you mean about confidence in your music.
I can remember playing shows and that 1st song where nobody is dancing and just watching your every move. Total pressure cooker until everyone starts feeling the groove and can't help but dancing. After that you're gold and your confidence soars.
Anyhow playing in a band does give a lot of confidence if you have some success. What is holding your band back at this point?
I can remember playing shows and that 1st song where nobody is dancing and just watching your every move. Total pressure cooker until everyone starts feeling the groove and can't help but dancing. After that you're gold and your confidence soars.
Anyhow playing in a band does give a lot of confidence if you have some success. What is holding your band back at this point?
I dont know what is holding me back. I should ahve alot of confidence because we put on great shows. I guess it's just the messed up childhood that holds me back and I have some form of social anxiety disorder. Anyway, this girl posted on facebook about a show she will be at this friday. She isn't performing, but someone else is. THere will be hundereds of people there and im sure she will be with tons of friends. I will end up going alone. SHoudl I approach her? Alot of my friends told me they could picture me getting with this chick. I have had such a messed up life that its hard for me to accept that I am good looking ,talented, etc. Its hard for me to imagine succeeding with a very popular good looking girl.
Yeah, so i havent really had conversations with this girl but out of the 1,000 plus friends she has, she has noticed me. She liked my status the other day and then I commented on one of her pics yesterday and she responded to my comment. I have noticed s he doesn't respond to alot of people.
MY friend tonight told me that I shoudl send her a message like, "Hey, are you still going to that show Friday? I was thinkin about checkin it out. It would be cool to meet you."
What do you think?
Then my friend went on to tell me that I need to stop doubting myself and said, "Look, I'm not gay but you're good looking and you know you could probably go get some pu**y anywhere." I don't know whats wrong with me...I guess it's just my lack of experience with women and socializing that keeps me this way.
So should I send her that message?
MY friend tonight told me that I shoudl send her a message like, "Hey, are you still going to that show Friday? I was thinkin about checkin it out. It would be cool to meet you."
What do you think?
Then my friend went on to tell me that I need to stop doubting myself and said, "Look, I'm not gay but you're good looking and you know you could probably go get some pu**y anywhere." I don't know whats wrong with me...I guess it's just my lack of experience with women and socializing that keeps me this way.
So should I send her that message?
Yeah man send it minus the "It would be cool to meet you."
It sounds like you have all the pieces in place Rhino. It's kind of a shame if the only thing holding you back are your own insecurities.
Think about how you feel just before you get up on stage to play a really big show. Then how that feeling of nervousness changes to exhilaration once the band hits it's groove and the crowd starts vibing.
Those are the exact same feelings you go thru when you are approaching women and out of your comfort zone. You know that nervousness is just in your head and once you bust thru it's all good on the other side. Go for it man.
Good luck with A.S. I'm really pulling for you on this one!
It sounds like you have all the pieces in place Rhino. It's kind of a shame if the only thing holding you back are your own insecurities.
Think about how you feel just before you get up on stage to play a really big show. Then how that feeling of nervousness changes to exhilaration once the band hits it's groove and the crowd starts vibing.
Those are the exact same feelings you go thru when you are approaching women and out of your comfort zone. You know that nervousness is just in your head and once you bust thru it's all good on the other side. Go for it man.
Good luck with A.S. I'm really pulling for you on this one!
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I just think it's already implied. If she's responding to you out of 1000's then I think she's noticed you enough to want to meet. Plus it prevents you looking like a "fan".
I'm thinking something like this:
You: "Hey you still going to that show on Friday. I'm thinking of checking it out."
Her: "Yeah I'll be there"
You: "Cool, see you there"
I'm thinking something like this:
You: "Hey you still going to that show on Friday. I'm thinking of checking it out."
Her: "Yeah I'll be there"
You: "Cool, see you there"
Kailex
Master Don Juan
What Slickster said.
You said she was a singer, right? You do know probably at least another dozen guys are telling her that "It'd be cool to meet her", which is pretty much the first step in the pedestal process.
No, it wouldn't be cool to meet her, but it'd be cool for her to meet YOU.
And it's not just about looks.
The fact that you are noticing stuff like "She replies to my comments and likes my status" means that you are almost at borderline creeper status. I sincerely hope not. Because if you are noticing minor details like that, it means you are spending TOO much time on her profile.
The way I see it, you already have her up on a pedestal.
Remember rejection > regret anyday. Just talk to her, like a human being, not like some sort of singing goddess that has fallen from the heavens. Just talk to her, and for the love of God, don't ever mention anything about her Facebook or bring up the fact that she ONCE liked your status.
You said she was a singer, right? You do know probably at least another dozen guys are telling her that "It'd be cool to meet her", which is pretty much the first step in the pedestal process.
No, it wouldn't be cool to meet her, but it'd be cool for her to meet YOU.
And it's not just about looks.
The fact that you are noticing stuff like "She replies to my comments and likes my status" means that you are almost at borderline creeper status. I sincerely hope not. Because if you are noticing minor details like that, it means you are spending TOO much time on her profile.
The way I see it, you already have her up on a pedestal.
Remember rejection > regret anyday. Just talk to her, like a human being, not like some sort of singing goddess that has fallen from the heavens. Just talk to her, and for the love of God, don't ever mention anything about her Facebook or bring up the fact that she ONCE liked your status.
ah man, you are right. I am putting her up on a pedestal. But thats because since I am a musician its very hard for me to find a girl that I would want to date since at this point I dont think I can really be with one that isnt one.
Geezus. Maybe I should just blow this whole thing off. I mean, she probably doesn't give a rats a** about me. If I send her a message, maybe I will seem like a stalker. BIg deal, she liked my status and commented on one of my comments. We talked through myspace like once almost a year ago. That is it. I just can't help thinking she is freakin beautiful. I get, "I'm hot" alot or whatever but I will admit I think I am intimidated by this chick.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.