"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Oneitis for girl that likes you

SirFratserlot

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how do you handle this. How do you know if she's losing interest. It seems like it because of the way she's texting, but she still shows up to dates and I feel like their might be another guy.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You have to talk to other girls man. Keep yourself busy with your life and make her fit into that.

I was reading an article where a gay dude tells guys that want to learn game to go to a gay club. Why? because in a gay club you can see what it feels like to be a female in a regular club. Now i'm not running into any gay clubs any time soon, but I can imagine a girl doing to me the things I would do to women. It's kinda hard to put yourself there, you have to spend some good meditation to really ponder these things. But think about it, how would you like a girl to act around you? Now don't be all about the sex, think relationship, life partner stuff...
 

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SgtSplacker said:
I was reading an article where a gay dude tells guys that want to learn game to go to a gay club. Why? because in a gay club you can see what it feels like to be a female in a regular club.
I understand the point, but it doesn't seem to make for a very apt analogy. For instance, assuming you're a heterosexual, in a gay club there is virtually zero chance that you will feel any attraction for any of the guys hitting on you. That would suggest that no woman in a club will ever feel any attraction to any guy who approaches her - seems like negative thinking to me.

Also, women willingly go to clubs. Part of it is to have fun with their friends. But I also have no doubt that another reason they go there is to be hit on. Specifically, what they want is the attention. To feel the power of their femininity, and the effect it has on the male. Heterosexual males do not go into gay clubs to get attention and feel the attraction. I sure don't think so anyway.
 

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SirFratserlot said:
how do you handle this. How do you know if she's losing interest. It seems like it because of the way she's texting, but she still shows up to dates and I feel like their might be another guy.
Just move on.. talk to other grls. Youll see by my previous posts I had bad oneitis and was a massive chump.

Completely over that stage now. I hope.
 

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WOMEN worry if someone likes them or not...
MEN worry about their job, career, money , investments.....

please check inside your pants to make sure you still have a pair....
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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switch said:
WOMEN worry if someone likes them or not...
MEN worry about their job, career, money , investments.....

please check inside your pants to make sure you still have a pair....
This guys an idiot, dont listen to him. Hes part of the reason SoSuave is getting worse.

Im not a long time poster but Im definitely a long time lurker, and douches like this deserve a ban hammer. Judging by his post, I can easily tell hes insecure about something
 

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Well she still has some interest in me, so im not going to ditch her. Im going to stop giving her attention though and ghost her. I think its a good thing because I was starting to lose control and thank god I didnt sabotage anything. Im just thinking this is natures way of waking me up.
 

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Zebco96 said:
Well if you are meeting other women like you SHOULD be doing, your attention will distribute itself accordingly.
I have an opportunity to this wednesday
 
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These topics are so gay, we need more information.

How long have you've known her?
Have you two had sex?
How many dates?
What did you do on the dates?
How far have you gotten with her?
How old are you guys?
Rate her.

There will always be other guys FYI.
 

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BeginningDJ said:
These topics are so gay, we need more information.

How long have you've known her?
Have you two had sex?
How many dates?
What did you do on the dates?
How far have you gotten with her?
How old are you guys?
Rate her.

There will always be other guys FYI.
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No but shes too goody but weve done other stuff
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Hooked up and slept with her on 1, the rest I kissed closed, but I do more stuff with her at parties
Fingering, dry sex, and *******
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6/10
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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SirFratserlot said:
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No but shes too goody but weve done other stuff
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Hooked up and slept with her on 1, the rest I kissed closed, but I do more stuff with her at parties
Fingering, dry sex, and *******
College
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wait wait wait you slept with her... but didnt have sex?! Oh man thats insane. Should;ve pushed for it...
 

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JohnChops said:
wait wait wait you slept with her... but didnt have sex?! Oh man thats insane. Should;ve pushed for it...
Shes pretty much a virgin, and something bad happened but I dont want to say it on this forum. I prefer to pm
 

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well she broke my nc after 1 day of not texting her. I'm just sending her short answers and she's apologizing and shvt. I really don't care though because she's already lost a good chunk of my interest.
 
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