If you had even read my post you would have noticed that I pointed out the Gracie's contribution. I only said that since them, Couture is the only guy who has done innovative things with MMA.
I have trained with the Gracie family. I have many friends who still do. I made a choice to study a martial art that wasn't MMA. Anyway, there are many better places to argue about which martial art is better on the internet than sosuave. People like you who train "four times a week" are a waste of our time. Try spending fourty hours a week in the dojo training like those of us who do it for a living, and then we can argue. Or not argue, since we tend to regard people like you as ones who will never "make it" in the martial arts, MMA or otherwise.
I think martial arts--any style--are a great thing for some guys here on sosuave. I only hope they don't listen to amateurs like you and generate their opinions of the martial arts based on your narrow, foolish ramblings.
And believe me, none of the top UFC guys have your pathetic elitist attitude. Feel free to ask them yourself.
Anyway, if any of you guys have real questions about any of the martial arts, martialtalk.com used to be a pretty good place with people who knew what they were talking about. I can't tell you if it's degraded since I used to frequent it or not, though. E-Budo.com is good if you're interested only in the Japanese arts.
