"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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OMG I met a HB8 and just chatted with her... this is scary

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tick37 said:
He won't back off because he doesn't know what playing the game really means. He'll be available every time she wants to chat.

come on, what the hell are you and Nighthawk b!tching about?

We are still strangers.. We haven't even talked on the phone yet. Give me some advice to succeed on this date. What are you doing this weekend tick?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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DonGorgon said:
Like i said you need to do a hit and run away fast..

lol i still think she was BS'ing me about the abuse.. come on, it was a HUGE test.. She doesn't take the internet thing seriously and thought I would believe her.. but I didn't and got her interest up.

Hopefully.
 
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DonGorgon said:
In the end al that matters is wether you sleep with her or not... she i definately not worth anything more.

Why do you say that? As long as it was just a joke, I think it's funny.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Women rarely pretend to have been abused for a laugh. The ones that do aren't normal. She may have been exaggerating, and raising the issue in the first place, in order to see if you would be a suitable AFC emotional tampon.

You kinda passed this test by not being too tampony, and with the teasing and jokes you've raised some interest so maybe she wants to check you out in the flesh. Be prepared for her to flake and test your reaction instead though. Also, the other way of failing this test would be so much of a jerk that you didn't care about her past abuse. Unless that turns her on.

It doesn't matter at all if you've met whether you go in the friend-zone. An e-dumpster can be even more suitable than one you have to meet for coffee, and screening on the net is usually sufficient. Though it looks like you've confused her sensors and she might bite.
 

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HB8: the first person who molested me was my brothers best friend who he still talks about to this day when I am around

HB8: I found a picture of her at oneof my birthday parties the other day and flipped out, I cried and ripped it up, I mean I have her face like imprinted in my head but to see her sitting next to a little me so small and innocent, I threw up

MNIN: that's raw I don't know how to respond

HB8: yeah, it is alot to take in

HB8: ok so I am tearing up just thinking about this, I usually don't get so emotional but I am sure not feeling well is contributng to me not being able to separate so can we talk about something else? If you have questions, that is cool, I am an open book, just not right now, ok?

HB8: brb
I don't see how you read that as a joke.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Nighthawk said:
I don't see how you read that as a joke.

Because it was the first time we ever talked. And she just came out with it.

Who would do that?
 
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DonGorgon said:
Neither do I....

Come on if the first time you chat with a girl off the web told you that right off the bat, you would believe it?

Maybe I just don't want to believe it.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
Come on if the first time you chat with a girl off the web told you that right off the bat, you would believe it?

Maybe I just don't want to believe it.
I have had that happen and yes i believed it and yes she was a very beautiful psychotic b!tch.... I F'ed her but did not run fast enough and had a hard time extricating myself from her grasp as she begged me to be her man ... cause her Ex man was in jail for trying to kill her...LOL and she had the scars to prove it.
 
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DonGorgon said:
I have had that happen and yes i believed it and yes she was a very beautiful psychotic b!tch.... I F'ed her but did not run fast enough and had a hard time extricating myself from her grasp as she begged me to be her man ... cause her Ex man was in jail for trying to kill her...LOL and she had the scars to prove it.

Well dammit man, give me the lowdown on how you met her and fukked her. Forget analyzing her psychological profile, let's help a brother out. It's not like I will be continuing the abuse on her, so tell me about your experience.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Nighthawk said:
Women rarely pretend to have been abused for a laugh.
. . . And how do we know this is a woman?
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
Well dammit man, give me the lowdown on how you met her and fukked her. Forget analyzing her psychological profile, let's help a brother out. It's not like I will be continuing the abuse on her, so tell me about your experience.
No , you cant save her from her psychosis or her self... in fact she will hurt you...

I met by crazy girl at a club... She is 19 years old 6feet tall built like a stripper and was wearing a cheer leader like outfit... While standing in line to go in she started chatting me up, chose me out of all the 100s of dudes trying to get at her... So i felt great.... She told me her man was in jail for attempted murder of her... and that her dad was on the run for raping her.... basically we spent all night at the club together and i followed her back to her friends place and f'ed her in her truck after her going down...

So she says she really likes me and wants to see me more ... so I see her and f her more then she starts begging and crying for me to be with her but she was very insane so i had to reverse manipulate her into letting me go... at which point she said she will always want me and I am the only guy she has not had a physiocal altercation with...
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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