You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Damn dude, you do know this relationship was not meant to be (for the long run) - It's all good though.Originally posted by Doug81
Yes, cavedweller, that works just fine. I'm 19 seeing a 36 year old women and I followed the steps like that almost to the book. She "hides" me from people like I'm her little secret. When it comes to older women, there is no "friend zone" because they know the drill. The either like you and talk to you or they don't it's that simple. There are no games. It's fun being a "special friend"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I agree up to the bored part. True, if she gets bored she'll move on but that's the same with all women. Understand that the latest fashion if for women to "date" younger guys. It's all about the excitement factor. If you aren't exciting, reconsider pursuing her because it could be a waste of time.Originally posted by cave dweller
Banging an older woman is all about 'friendship'.
The way to play it is: Become her friend first and then move to that next level, which is the 'special friend' status.
But ----when she gets bored with you she will move on.
cave dweller
I'm 24, I've banged two 35-year olds. Never once was there a "friend" stage.Originally posted by cave dweller
Banging an older woman is all about 'friendship'.
The way to play it is: Become her friend first and then move to that next level, which is the 'special friend' status.
But ----when she gets bored with you she will move on.
cave dweller
LOL! This worked for me on Saturday night. Like shooting a fish in a barrel.Originally posted by squirrels
Is she already showing signs of interest? If so, just go Gunwitch on her.Women at that age have less hang-ups about sex.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Banging an OLD woman, might be more about friendship, but not just an OLDER woman. What, you mean she will put up with wuss behavior from a 24 year old, but not from a 32 year old? Come on guys. At best she'll think its cute, and will rationalize the afc behavior as part of the guy being a little too young for her.Originally posted by cave dweller
Banging an older woman is all about 'friendship'.
The way to play it is: Become her friend first and then move to that next level, which is the 'special friend' status.
But ----when she gets bored with you she will move on.
cave dweller