"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Older Women

The Duke

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When I was in my mid to late 30's I dated several 37-44yo women. They were all very attractive with nice bodies. Always horny. Very open minded in bed. I always asked them why are you dating a guy like me 5-8yrs younger. They all told me because the guys their age weren't in good shape. I'd take a pretty 40yo with a great body over a 23yo with an ok body any day. To each their own.

Look for the ones that can pass for 10yrs younger than they really are. They also stayed out of the sun and away from the drinking and stress. There are 35yo plus women with good enough genetics that they don't even need to work out to have solid bodies. It's an untapped niche, if you can get past the age.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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My experiences have been good...they don't play games, they love sex, are used to guys who need Viagra to perform and even then likely bust a nut in 2 minutes and are out of shape, and will basically let you do anything in the bedroom.
:rofl: Some are just as bad if not worse than the younger ones. But props to you though.
 

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Can you please tell me your experiences with older women?
Wrong forum. We don't give advice on older women, divorced women, menopausal women, fat women, or single mothers.

Sosuave only gives advice on hot, young, sexy women between 18-29.
 

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In my experience older women (27+) tend to be more desperate, more horny, more LTR oriented, and yet simultaneously more delusional, entitled, and bitter. They're a mess, and I tend to avoid them unless they're exceptional.
You're the only one interpreting "older women" as age 27. I think its related to the age gap between you[1] and posters in their 50s. I view it as more evidence this "mature man" forum has the wrong age limit.

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I am close to mid 30s
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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There are folks here that wish it was the case, but that’s because that’s their target audience and they’re only interested in things that apply to them.

In reality the forum ranges a great deal in what it covers and what advice is available for someone.
 

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Is this really a rule of the forum?
No, but talking about a 56yrs old woman from a dating app on SS makes as much sense as going on a business/career related forum and talking about minimum wage paying jobs. :rolleyes:
 

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No, but talking about a 56yrs old woman from a dating app on SS makes as much sense as going on a business/career related forum and talking about minimum wage paying jobs. :rolleyes:
Seems like I can't win.

The last month or so I was offered by two girls in their early twenties, the youngest was 20, of me being their Sugar Daddy.

I laughed them off, and people here laughed at me when I mentioned the story.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Forgive me, I'm sure that there have been many numerous threads on this topic, however...

Can you please tell me your experiences with older women?

I've made a match on OLD, with a Woman who it ten years older... she is actually attractive for her age, and she seems quite keen, and has mentioned physicality. Married once before, no kids. Works in Government like me, so would have a good wage.

Curious, have any of you guys experienced women who are still horny that are older?
You seem excited, so what's the problem? Go for it.

I think this is more common than most men wanna admit. Due to OLD the entire landscape of dating has changed in ways that aren't documented in popular culture yet. Whereas it was normal for a let's say 45 y.o man to date women ten and much more years younger, now these mid 30 women will battle their own " fight against the clock " and see if they can date younger men, much younger if possible. Happened to me a lot when OLD just started to take off.

Same happened to OP. The ( somewhat attractive) 55 y.o will refuse to date a " 65 old fart" .

All these women will say they have "no problem dating younger men as they already look and feel young themselves ".

The ONLY way to bypass this is by having and displaying significant value. Think a killer physique, money/ status and best of all a combination of those. Those are qualities all women want, 16-60.

Op, eat your heart out , go for this one as it might still be plenty of work, despite the age difference...treat her like any other woman you'd date ,and yes, you'll hit it...

(If anyone wants the "classic" younger woman dynamics you gotta passport bro your way into some pootang. Highly risky ,as you GOTTA be self assured a 100% redpill bull no nonsense stand up guy to keep that woman on the leash. Your import pootang can ALSO download a dating app once she's here, ya know..)
 

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Forgive me, I'm sure that there have been many numerous threads on this topic, however...

Can you please tell me your experiences with older women?

I've made a match on OLD, with a Woman who it ten years older... she is actually attractive for her age, and she seems quite keen, and has mentioned physicality. Married once before, no kids. Works in Government like me, so would have a good wage.

Curious, have any of you guys experienced women who are still horny that are older?
Focus on younger women. Don’t waste your time on old hags
 

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So, we met for lunch today. Conversation flowed freely for the full hour of her lunch break.

It didn't work out.

Third time I've struck out in a matter of weeks. Not having much luck. I'm not going to give up.
 

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I'm not going to give up.
Get your deceased father's Rolex re-sized and start wearing it. Spend the $1,500 to bring it back to life. That might help your outcomes.


 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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So, we met for lunch today. Conversation flowed freely for the full hour of her lunch break.

It didn't work out.

Third time I've struck out in a matter of weeks. Not having much luck. I'm not going to give up.
Why not

Let's analyze what went wrong.
 

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Let's analyze what went wrong.
Off the top of my head Im guessing Op is not giving them the Vaginal Tingles. He´s not escalating.

Hes pedestalizing these women. He´s giving off an unattractive vibe by a combination of his body language, tone, lack of frame, etc.

Not only is he not the prize, he´s not "faking it till he makes it".

In short, he dries off their p00zy. Im just guessing though.
 

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So, we met for lunch today. Conversation flowed freely for the full hour of her lunch break.

It didn't work out.

Third time I've struck out in a matter of weeks. Not having much luck. I'm not going to give up.
Ya man, don't meet these older broads for lunch. Drinks only, unless there's a strong sexual vibe and then you can do coffee. No food. Lunch is waaay to business-like. What's business-like about good/hot sex? That's their primary purpose.
 

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Hi Darwin,
I lived in Darwin for 3+years it is no place for a Playboy....available unnattached Females were like Rocking Horse doo-dahs....Paradoxically when I was up there,it was rumored that a large nest of Lesbians in the Australian Armed Forces was broken up,transferred or sacked....always wondered about that.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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