"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Oldder women????

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Hey guy's back for a little help with this one?

Now the thing is. Me 20 Her 31.
Backround: We train togther, Martial arts, Gymnastics and Weights. Oh she is also some what my personal trainer.
We fooled around one night after the bar, still talk all the time and hang out whenever we can.

Now is there any tips out there for hitting on oldder more matture women. She is very hot. Looks like she is 24 ish.
How can i work this and win out in the long run guys?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Vincent

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Perhaps the men in mature men could help ya out a little better than us.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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How does she seem different from a woman that's younger?
 

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Originally posted by returnofsoccerstar
Hey guy's back for a little help with this one?

Now the thing is. Me 20 Her 31.
Backround: We train togther, Martial arts, Gymnastics and Weights. Oh she is also some what my personal trainer.
We fooled around one night after the bar, still talk all the time and hang out whenever we can.

Now is there any tips out there for hitting on oldder more matture women. She is very hot. Looks like she is 24 ish.
How can i work this and win out in the long run guys?
She's obviously attracted to you since you already "fooled around" (whatever that means, exactly). My advice would be to behave or do whatever you did "after the bar".
 

Eileen

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How can you win this one? Stop thinking of her as an age. She's just a woman. If you're focused on the age difference, she'll focus there too. If you don't, she'll get past it.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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