Are guys that look this good at 60 yrs old on testosterone? Is it some sort of steroids. Either way he is very inspiring. I need to do better. I want to be healthy and strong enough to defend my family ( non existent) into my 60s.
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Are guys that look this good at 60 yrs old on testosterone? Is it some sort of steroids. Either way he is very inspiring. I need to do better. I want to be healthy and strong enough to defend my family ( non existent) into my 60s.
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C'mon man. Anyone looking like that at ANY age is on steroids.
Probably not Test...or at least some Test with other things added...Winstrol, Anavar, etc...
Yeh thats what I figured. I don't know much about supplements so thats why I was not sure. I really wanna still be strong at 50.
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Just keep lifting weights. I'm approaching 50 and am still in pretty good shape. I am on TRT but that basically keeps my Test levels around 600-800 nothing super crazy.
I am thinking about doing TRT but I have heard rumors of bad side effects. I have heard that you have to keep taking it for life. Is that true?
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What are the bad side effects you are talking about?
Well yeah, of course. TRT is meant for people who aren't producing enough testosterone on their own. There would be no logic to discontinuing it.
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People who use steroids and things like hgh at the levels required to get that sandpaper skin, size and leanness over years all have the following issues:
Hypertension
Organomegaly (your internal organs get bigger and crowd your abdomen and thoracic cavities)
It can lead to reduced lung capacity.
Your heart is almost guaranteed to have left ventricle hypertrophic growth leading to congestive heart failure.
Liver damage.
Kidney damage.
Polycythemia which is the overproduction of red blood cells, making it harder on your heart to pump blood.
You’re prone to clotting disorders and DVT.
Just to name a few things.
Used judiciously TRT with proper monitoring and titration can be great for the male body but will not yield a crazy huge physique.
Hypertension
Organomegaly (your internal organs get bigger and crowd your abdomen and thoracic cavities)
It can lead to reduced lung capacity.
Your heart is almost guaranteed to have left ventricle hypertrophic growth leading to congestive heart failure.
Liver damage.
Kidney damage.
Polycythemia which is the overproduction of red blood cells, making it harder on your heart to pump blood.
You’re prone to clotting disorders and DVT.
Just to name a few things.
Used judiciously TRT with proper monitoring and titration can be great for the male body but will not yield a crazy huge physique.
The guy has good genetics -that apparently skipped a generation, look at his son, Lee 0:51 in- and has been on at TRT(at the very least, I'd imagine he's tossed in a few full cycles) for a couple decades. The hairstyle and style in general helps a tonne to make him look more youthful as well. It's apparent this guys primary goal in life is to look this way, also his entire persona revolves around it. But not without sacrifice. Is this achievable? Yes. but it ain't going to be easy if you're not starting with top tier genetics.
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If you put in the work, you will see the results.
It's not just the fact that he looks good, he's also probably not in a ton of pain or suffering from all the health problems that come with being old and sedentary.
It's not just the fact that he looks good, he's also probably not in a ton of pain or suffering from all the health problems that come with being old and sedentary.
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The guy in the clip is also lying. There is no way in hell a 60 year old that looks like him is natty. No way in hell, unless he has an endocrine disorder that over produces testosterone - low low chance.
I love crap like this online, trainers and athletes lying about PEDs use. It also makes it harder on the average man to attract even average women that are their looksmatch.
Didn’t watch the whole thing, but if there is any links to a site or selling something at the end there is your answer.
I love crap like this online, trainers and athletes lying about PEDs use. It also makes it harder on the average man to attract even average women that are their looksmatch.
Didn’t watch the whole thing, but if there is any links to a site or selling something at the end there is your answer.
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I heard there is an increased risk of MI (heart attacks). I also heard that if you stop using it then your body will not be able to produce it anymore. I have heard these things from health care providers if I am not mistaken.
Yeh I get it. I suspected the same thing.
Wait....gear ages you?
Ahhh okay. This makes sense. Thanks
Lol I feel bad for his son. Is the work required to keep looking that good worth it? Not if you are married lol. If you are a single older man then yes.
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Okay yeh i see what you are saying. I really did not know the effects. Dang so its a tradeoff.
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Well yes but that is in large part due people not keeping an eye on their hematocrit levels to see if they are susceptible to polythecemia(increased red blood cell production).
This is a common side effect but not in everyone. However, if you have it, like I do, you need to donate blood every 8-12 weeks to ensure your hematocrit levels stay in check and your blood doesn't get too thick. Otherwise your blood can turn into sludge and cause blood clots/heart attacks/strokes.
Kind of unfathomable that most doctors don't even really have their patients on TRT checked for this regularly at least until they know this isn't an issue for them.
Not sure why natural production of testosterone would be an issue since you already aren't producing enough to begin with. That's the entire reason you get on TRT.
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IMHO The dudes physical condition is not something that needs "special sports supplements", lean but not that much muscle. Decent(not even great) genetics and hard consistent work over decades is enough. Even less impressed if on trt. You can see equally old bodybuilders with more impressive physique
What I'm quite impressed is the skin. That needs some crazy collagen synthesis genetics in addition to sunscreen.
What I'm quite impressed is the skin. That needs some crazy collagen synthesis genetics in addition to sunscreen.
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Guy in the clip is obviously juicing. He is way too lean and has steroid gut.
If you want to look good into your 60s, do the following:
-drink lots of water
-take medicine as prescribed
-lay off the drugs and alcohol
-strength train
-eat a balanced diet
-fvck often
If you want to look good into your 60s, do the following:
-drink lots of water
-take medicine as prescribed
-lay off the drugs and alcohol
-strength train
-eat a balanced diet
-fvck often
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At age 60? Are you kidding me?IMHO The dudes physical condition is not something that needs "special sports supplements", lean but not that much muscle. Decent(not even great) genetics and hard consistent work over decades is enough. Even less impressed if on trt. You can see equally old bodybuilders with more impressive physique
What I'm quite impressed is the skin. That needs some crazy collagen synthesis genetics in addition to sunscreen.
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