“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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OLD always goes cold after the first few messages

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Anyone else having this experience? You match with a girl, you send a few messages back and forth, and then she ghosts. It feels like a default behavior at this point, really bizarre. Basically an OLD equivalent of me asking a question and her turning and walking away out of nowhere.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Be aware There are a lot of fake profiles on there combine this with damaged women and women who don't really know what they want and you have a toxic waste pool of dating material

Fairly convinced Women sign up to these sites because they have seen a tv ad of a happy family / couple and decide they need/want a man

Women genuinely believe they can go on these sites and find Mr right in seconds

but after 2 hours of swiping / matching her expectations haven't been met and her attention wonders elsewhere

Men are naturally more pragmatic on OLD and understand its probably only useful for setting up 1st dates and maybe hookups

A lot of women do not want that , they want instant connection and emotion which is near impossible for any man to produce virtually

I have never experienced such a waste of time as swipe apps / old …..95% of the time it is completely pointless
 

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It's even more bizzare when they are the one's who message first but they still Ghost or just never reply when you answer her. I even had one chick message me first, gave me her number but never responded to my text.

I really think they have the attention span of a goldfish
 

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It's even more bizzare when they are the one's who message first but they still Ghost or just never reply when you answer her. I even had one chick message me first, gave me her number but never responded to my text.

I really think they have the attention span of a goldfish
Probably also why they have a history of toxic relationships in their past they’ll tell you about once you start talking to them. They can’t seem to figure out why they’re so unlucky in love though.lol
 

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yeah i have noticed this too, specially on Tinder past 6 months. Last chick even suggested it'd be easier to talk in text so i gave her my number and boom never heard from here again. Tinder used to be great for me pre pandemic but its been crap since. I get matches and either they dont respond to the initial message or they stop responding after a few exchanges. It's weird.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Anyone else having this experience? You match with a girl, you send a few messages back and forth, and then she ghosts. It feels like a default behavior at this point, really bizarre. Basically an OLD equivalent of me asking a question and her turning and walking away out of nowhere.
She's either bored with you or she was not very interested in you to begin with.
 

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She's either bored with you or she was not very interested in you to begin with.
How the fvck can one be bored after 3 text exchanges o_O And yeah, if not interested to begin with, obvs only matching for attention
 

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OLD is full of women who see themselves as higher value than they actually are in real life. Fatties get pounded with messages from decent looking guys because they just want to fvck her and anything else they can stick their dic in. So the woman thinks these men want to "date" her.

The same dudes wouldnt even look her way out in public.

For shytes and gigs I once created 2 fake profiles on POF. One was a super attractive, fit chick. No kids, never married and looking for a serious relationship.....the other was a curvy chick that I put was never married, had kids and looking for casual dating. The first one probably was a 9 and the second one a 7.

They both got pounded with messages but the 7 got twice as many because the dudes looked at the 7 as an easy piece of ass. Within 5 hours both profiles had over 100 messages from dudes hitting them up. So you have to also realize how many men are hitting up women on POF and any other dating site.

And women are ALWAYS looking for the next better option. So if you choose to use OLD, which I would NOT suggest (or do not take it seriously at all if you do use it and only use it to be straight forward about getting them to your place), dont beat yourself up over women ghosting you after a few messages. Its THEIR personality fault, not yours.

Go meet women in real life. Its much easier than you think and its much better. Or hit some women up on fb after you become friends with them. OLD is a shyte hole for the most part.
 

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They both got pounded with messages but the 7 got twice as many because the dudes looked at the 7 as an easy piece of ass. Within 5 hours both profiles had over 100 messages from dudes hitting them up. So you have to also realize how many men are hitting up women on POF and any other dating site.

And women are ALWAYS looking for the next better option. So if you choose to use OLD, which I would NOT suggest (or do not take it seriously at all if you do use it and only use it to be straight forward about getting them to your place), dont beat yourself up over women ghosting you after a few messages. Its THEIR personality fault, not yours.

Go meet women in real life. Its much easier than you think and its much better. Or hit some women up on fb after you become friends with them. OLD is a shyte hole for the most part.
I think this whole recommendation from @Glassguy makes sense. On a website or a swipe app, you're just another swinging penis among hundreds of penises. Women's swipe queues and inboxes are getting pounded. That makes it difficult to get attention.

It's not easy to get attention in real life either, especially in non-bar settings. In real life, you can have a conversation to a natural completion though. If you cold approach a woman who uses swipe apps, you'll stand out a little bit more. No woman gets approached as much in real life as she does in the tech world. No woman could field 100 approaches in 5 hours in real life.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Anyone else having this experience? You match with a girl, you send a few messages back and forth, and then she ghosts. It feels like a default behavior at this point, really bizarre. Basically an OLD equivalent of me asking a question and her turning and walking away out of nowhere.
Most women are on their to entertain themselves and harvest simps. They get 1000 messages per week, so your message "so, what do you do?" gets burried under 50 messages asking her what colour underwear she's got on or if she likes anal.
 

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It happens to me all the time, at any point in the interaction, no matter how good it started or how good it's going.

You need to move fast. Especially with younger women. I usually ask for their number after 1 or 2 messages, text them later that day, then immediately try to get them to commit to a meetup in 2-3 days. If they don't play ball any step of the way, I stop talking to them.
 

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The thing is though, if they're losing interest most guys after a couple messages, what could any other guy possibly say that would make the cut? I'm thinking it doesn't have anything to do with what ones says, just how the pics look, and what the female is feeling at that moment. If she stubs her toe while looking at your messages, she now correlates that bad feeling with you, and you're ghosted.
It doesn't unless you are the male local celebrity she's gonna treat every guy exactly the same ....with contempt

Theres too many desperate men on these apps and the small proportion of women that use them have realised this

Its actually great for women because they dont have to do anything , have their pick of virtually any man they want , have sex whenever they want and get expensive dates paid for whenever they want

When i started being fussy on tinder and swiping left to 80% of the women i saw i could almost hear the algorithm screaming "what do you think your doing buster"

Seriously guys get off OLD do better
 

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Go meet women in real life. Its much easier than you think and its much better. Or hit some women up on fb after you become friends with them. OLD is a shyte hole for the most part.
I'll drink to that. Not just the FB part. FB is for old people and sheite hole in itself.

I dont use FB, never have really. I do admit to have a FB account, but for business reason only to access their API functions.
But ye, FB stinks.

Not having social media accounts is also an advantage I would argue, because chicks cannot stalk you on the internet and "figure you out". You remain mysterious to them.
 

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Anyone else having this experience? You match with a girl, you send a few messages back and forth, and then she ghosts. It feels like a default behavior at this point, really bizarre. Basically an OLD equivalent of me asking a question and her turning and walking away out of nowhere.
Usually not. Show us an example of the convo that is happening.
 

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You have to ask them out within the first 5 messages.
Yes, that's true. Some might even flake before that. In-person approaching is still better, even when asking out within the first 5 messages.
 

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I think this whole recommendation from @Glassguy makes sense. On a website or a swipe app, you're just another swinging penis among hundreds of penises. Women's swipe queues and inboxes are getting pounded. That makes it difficult to get attention.

It's not easy to get attention in real life either, especially in non-bar settings. In real life, you can have a conversation to a natural completion though. If you cold approach a woman who uses swipe apps, you'll stand out a little bit more. No woman gets approached as much in real life as she does in the tech world. No woman could field 100 approaches in 5 hours in real life.
The last 3 GOOD relationships I've had were all in person interaction. I've NEVER had any lasting relationship from OLD. Lots of flings but nothing sustainable.

Current chick I'm dating/plating is probably one of the most solid women I've met. And I met her at a volleyball game as she was related to a buddy of mine that had a daughter playing that I was there watching.

OLD is easy and not many things in life that are easy are worth a damn.

Fellas get out there and talk to women face to face.
 

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The last 3 GOOD relationships I've had were all in person interaction. I've NEVER had any lasting relationship from OLD. Lots of flings but nothing sustainable.

Current chick I'm dating/plating is probably one of the most solid women I've met. And I met her at a volleyball game as she was related to a buddy of mine that had a daughter playing that I was there watching.

OLD is easy and not many things in life that are easy are worth a damn.

Fellas get out there and talk to women face to face.
Sustainable relationships are my goal.

Tech assisted dating is not easy. It has the illusion of ease. There's a lot of frustration from swiping, texting, and having interactions fail, often with one date, no sex, no second date.

Starting interactions face to face and not with an app on a phone screen is good advice.
 

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Anyone else having this experience? You match with a girl, you send a few messages back and forth, and then she ghosts. It feels like a default behavior at this point, really bizarre. Basically an OLD equivalent of me asking a question and her turning and walking away out of nowhere.
You have to see this from their perspective.

OLD is a fire hose of d!ck for women. She has 20 other guys that she's talking to. If you don't stand out from the rest of the guys then she's not going to care. You do the same with fat chicks
 
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