"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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OLD advice on msg tactics

ubercat

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Hey guys I've got to this Vietnamese chick I've been messaging with. Lucky girl has been travelling around Europe. Given that she is an OLD chick she's probably getting knobbed by half of Italy right now.

And in my country asian chicks are definitely top of the o l d food chain so she d get plenty of site attention.

So I d done a few messages built a bit of rapport and it was time to see if she was just attention whoring Hit her up with the date request and she replied - " we will see when I get back" now the reason I'm analysing this is because it is OLD if it comes up once it will come up 100 times

So assuming I want to keep frame because I'm not going Gaga over some random net chick what's the best response
1. NC ie. no reply
2. NP it was nice chatting ie start closing the door and see if she tries to put her foot in it
3. NP good luck with your Hunt - slam door shut keep strongest frame but zero chance of anything moving from there
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Number 2, Slim chance but she might hit you up when she gets back. You leave the door open a bit and forget about it. If she messages it's a pleasant surprise. You will have to have made an impression. She has loads of guys messaging her but it's a waste of time to continue.
 
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Forgot to tidy up this thread. Went with option 2 - she cracked out. Sent me wall of text about how she wouldnt keep messaging a guy if she wasn't interested (lmao) and how it was over to me...blah blah. Yeah of course OLD girls are known for their stability ;-) If she's this easily set off - she ain't gonna enjoy time with me - NEXT
 
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ubercat said:
Forgot to tidy up this thread. Went with option 2 - she cracked out. Sent me wall of text about how she wouldnt keep messaging a guy if she wasn't interested (lmao) and how it was over to me...blah blah. Yeah of course OLD girls are known for their stability ;-) If she's this easily set off - she ain't gonna enjoy time with me - NEXT
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Good for you.

At least the cow got back to you. You did something right. Not your fault she was not up to snuff.
 
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Nice job, OP. #2 works every time. Women can't stand it when we take control and cut it off before they do. They are used to the regular beta spiral which always ends on their terms one way or the other. When we end it, it blows their mind and sends their egos into literal nuclear meltdown. Then they HAVE to get back into it somehow, in hopes that you will take them back so they can "try you out" one more time and later end it on their terms of THEY want to. This goes for LTRs, STRs, plates, and even women who you haven't had the first date with yet. It all plays the same.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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