"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Hey guys I've got to this Vietnamese chick I've been messaging with. Lucky girl has been travelling around Europe. Given that she is an OLD chick she's probably getting knobbed by half of Italy right now.

And in my country asian chicks are definitely top of the o l d food chain so she d get plenty of site attention.

So I d done a few messages built a bit of rapport and it was time to see if she was just attention whoring Hit her up with the date request and she replied - " we will see when I get back" now the reason I'm analysing this is because it is OLD if it comes up once it will come up 100 times

So assuming I want to keep frame because I'm not going Gaga over some random net chick what's the best response
1. NC ie. no reply
2. NP it was nice chatting ie start closing the door and see if she tries to put her foot in it
3. NP good luck with your Hunt - slam door shut keep strongest frame but zero chance of anything moving from there
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Number 2, Slim chance but she might hit you up when she gets back. You leave the door open a bit and forget about it. If she messages it's a pleasant surprise. You will have to have made an impression. She has loads of guys messaging her but it's a waste of time to continue.
 

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Forgot to tidy up this thread. Went with option 2 - she cracked out. Sent me wall of text about how she wouldnt keep messaging a guy if she wasn't interested (lmao) and how it was over to me...blah blah. Yeah of course OLD girls are known for their stability ;-) If she's this easily set off - she ain't gonna enjoy time with me - NEXT
 

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Forgot to tidy up this thread. Went with option 2 - she cracked out. Sent me wall of text about how she wouldnt keep messaging a guy if she wasn't interested (lmao) and how it was over to me...blah blah. Yeah of course OLD girls are known for their stability ;-) If she's this easily set off - she ain't gonna enjoy time with me - NEXT
Good for you.

At least the cow got back to you. You did something right. Not your fault she was not up to snuff.
 

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Nice job, OP. #2 works every time. Women can't stand it when we take control and cut it off before they do. They are used to the regular beta spiral which always ends on their terms one way or the other. When we end it, it blows their mind and sends their egos into literal nuclear meltdown. Then they HAVE to get back into it somehow, in hopes that you will take them back so they can "try you out" one more time and later end it on their terms of THEY want to. This goes for LTRs, STRs, plates, and even women who you haven't had the first date with yet. It all plays the same.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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