"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Ok this is scary... (Women and fakeup)
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
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Ehh not really
The ugly fat girls on there are still ugly with all that makeup on.
The only one that I thought was hot was this one with all the makeup.
And even after removing her makeup. Waking up next to her the next day, I'd still want to fvck the sh1t outta her. Especially if she's got an ass to go with her skin color
The ugly fat girls on there are still ugly with all that makeup on.
The only one that I thought was hot was this one with all the makeup.
And even after removing her makeup. Waking up next to her the next day, I'd still want to fvck the sh1t outta her. Especially if she's got an ass to go with her skin color
AureliusMaximus
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Thats just one of many tho.Ehh not really
The ugly fat girls on there are still ugly with all that makeup on.
The only one that I thought was hot was this one with all the makeup.
And even after removing her makeup. Waking up next to her the next day, I'd still want to fvck the sh1t outta her. Especially if she's got an ass to go with her skin color
Using makeup is somewhat a double edged sword as the "product sold" to use marketing terms is not often what you get in the end of the day. Vetting girls on their looks can sometimes be tricky as they are damn good at hiding their true natural looks.
The less they have the better in my opinion as the real good looking girls do not need it really.
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Bingo-Player
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Are you guys shocked ?
My ex slept with her makeup on for 3 months when we first met
They know the second you see their bare face the entire power struggle swings back into the mans favour
I would implore any man to take a good hard look at any plate , girlfriend or a LTR without any makeup on
Usually you will find her allure will completely diminish , hold that picture in your mind and it will serve you in good stead
My ex slept with her makeup on for 3 months when we first met
They know the second you see their bare face the entire power struggle swings back into the mans favour
I would implore any man to take a good hard look at any plate , girlfriend or a LTR without any makeup on
Usually you will find her allure will completely diminish , hold that picture in your mind and it will serve you in good stead
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That is actually a trend. I wouldn't categorize this as 100% catfishing since they are at least being upfront with the before and after, I would call it body dysmorphia.
There is this pretty famous girl on tik-tok that has no teeth and is not stellar looking that has this pretty nice body and when she puts on makeup, fake teeth, etc she looks what social media would call gorgeous. I think she calls it to shake my beauty or something.
Either way, to your point it is scary. Terrifying if they are not being honest about what they look like naturally. 100% misleading and psychologically alarming.
That is one of my high standards. I am not opposed to women wearing makeup, but:
1) Look natural 90% of the time you are with me. Especially the first few times we meet.
2) Minimal makeup if she is to wear it
If you are that type of woman that likes a lot of makeup and wears it almost every day, it's all good, you do you boo, but I am not your man. There is the door.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Wow. Some real ugly b!tches dude.. Real ugly, inside and out!
AureliusMaximus
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I would call it false marketing.
It's like announcing a product that isn't real. You could in theory even go as call lying or deception.
I recall that there was this case a few years back where a guy actually got away with suing his wife and g because she basically had made so much surgery that once they got their first kid he could see the huge difference.
Amazingly judge actually agreed, (amazingly because judges normally in 99.9% of all family law cases do not side with the male), that she had deceived him and legally annulled the marriage.
So he won the whole case.
A bit harsh yes, but on the flipside she had no been honest to him at all from the inception of their relationship.
Bingo-Player
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I would also happily smash this without makeup she's hotEhh not really
The ugly fat girls on there are still ugly with all that makeup on.
The only one that I thought was hot was this one with all the makeup.
And even after removing her makeup. Waking up next to her the next day, I'd still want to fvck the sh1t outta her. Especially if she's got an ass to go with her skin color
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Google "transvestite makeup before and after"
This is what I'm talking about when I say most girls are actually ugly without makeup on. It's all an act. It's their only worth so they exaggerate it.
You NEVER know what a girl looks like by looking at a picture.
This is what I'm talking about when I say most girls are actually ugly without makeup on. It's all an act. It's their only worth so they exaggerate it.
You NEVER know what a girl looks like by looking at a picture.
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
AureliusMaximus
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Its never stops to fascinate me how much makeup can change and alter a persons appearance.
This thing with trannys tho makes it even more freaky as some are so good at it that they could fool you for a real girl. Aka the nightmare scenario of must guys including myself and what Stu expedience in the video clip from hangover below ha ha.
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I was in Bangkok and chatted with a ladyboy for about 5 minutes before asking if "she" was a real girl. He told me no, so I left. I almost felt like I was offending her by asking, but good thing I did lol.
Wait... You had sex with a tranny on accident?!
I heard of a guy who went to jail in Thailand for beating the sh1t out of a ladyboy after finding out it was a guy.
AureliusMaximus
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No. But its a big nightmare that you might make a move on one by mistake and come as far as make out (believing its a girl).
My gaydar is usually very good at catching these.
But some are really hard to spot because they are such a naturals at playing their role + their makeup etc etc.
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That's why I only go in the go-go bars marked "real girls only."No. But its a big nightmare that you might make a move on one by mistake and come as far as make out (believing its a girl).
My gaydar is usually very good at catching these.
But some are really hard to spot because they are such a naturals at playing their role + their makeup etc etc.
I already know I wouldn't be able to tell. Also the massage parlors during daytime are always female.
But I would never get anyone off the street in Thailand in the RLD.
AureliusMaximus
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
FlexpertHamilton
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Oddly enough, there are some women who naturally look good without makeup, but still wear a ton of it and somehow manage to look worse with it than without it.
Ask them to take a shower with you, or go swimming. Problem solved.
AureliusMaximus
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The irony of makeup is that it feeds insecurity about your true self as it on the same time acts like a ego confidence booster while wearing it.
A doubled edge sword it indeed it is. This is also why even some top of the line Victoria's secrets models can be extremely insecure about themselves when they are not wearing this crap.