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Nothing should surprise you online. I've had nets girls flake after they sent me a booty call and naked pictures while on the way to their place. Another variation is the drunken booty call where they pass out before you get there. At other end of the range I've had girls who say they aren't in it for sex sucking me off in the car park half an hour later. A couple of my personal favorites: a chick handcuffed me to her bed and then left after doing the deed. That was a bit too Misery for me I figured she might come back with an axe. Man have you ever tried catching a cab with a handcuff and a piece of bed railing attached. Then there was the hot young cat lady I bent over and pounded good and proper while her 4 bloody cats watched. Then I get this email from her with a page of just prrrrrrrrrrr. Online is a zoo. There's plenty of random ***** to be had. But don't ever take it seriously just use it for practice
 

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So, had one the other day. I wanted to meet up, and she gave me her number and wanted to chat first. Well, texts were a day a or two apart, and we exchanged maybe 20 texts. I have been cutting off all women I am not particularly interested in laying...

Me: I am not much for drawn out text convos. Let's meet up. Call me this weekend and we can setup something next week. If not, good luck to you!
Her: I don't think there is much of a love-match here. I wish you the best of luck!

I want to get the last word with something like "Your crazy if you think you can get texting love-match..." or some other nonsense. Just another example of a woman completely confused by this OLD thing, or maybe just looking for her validation fix in OLD. Mind you, this is a 37-year-old single mommy who is probably a HB7 on a really really good day. Mostly a HB6 though... I am not good with messages, but definitely think I could have phrased it differently. The result would probably be the same...

Just another sad single mommy in my eyes...
 

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So I figured I'd reverse mind Fvck that girl that sent me nudes then flaked because I was bored so I texted her on Thursday after not hearing a peep since she flaked on Saturday. Me:Hey my bad if i missed your message Saturday my phone messed up, just got it going again, luckily I had everything backed up , didn't want you to think I flaked after you sent those pics and everything (nervous smiley) she replied literally within 30 seconds:I did message but I figured you were by or you didn't wanna talk to me or something,My phone caught a virus over the week to from fb it sucked. She then asked me how I was and said maybe this weekend lmao I'll hold my breath I got a laugh out of it since she knew I had blackmail and proved to be a liar hence why I'm a firm believer all woman are pos's these days lol.
 

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So I figured I'd reverse mind Fvck that girl that sent me nudes then flaked because I was bored so I texted her on Thursday after not hearing a peep since she flaked on Saturday. Me:Hey my bad if i missed your message Saturday my phone messed up, just got it going again, luckily I had everything backed up , didn't want you to think I flaked after you sent those pics and everything (nervous smiley) she replied literally within 30 seconds:I did message but I figured you were by or you didn't wanna talk to me or something,My phone caught a virus over the week to from fb it sucked. She then asked me how I was and said maybe this weekend lmao I'll hold my breath I got a laugh out of it since she knew I had blackmail and proved to be a liar hence why I'm a firm believer all woman are pos's these days lol.
perhaps her phone caught an std virus from her noodz
 

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perhaps her phone caught an std virus from her noodz
Haha right, I just plan to use her as a back up booty call if she even proves to be worth that much. She Was supposedly married for 7 years figured I could turn her out on some new **** lol.
 

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She should be easy to bend over because it doesn't sound like she could lie straight in bed
 

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Guess who flaked again, not that I was expecting any different, she talked to me up until around noon today saying how nervous she was then stopped responding all together, finally sent her a final text: (Guess I never understood why people flake when they have a chance to bring something good into there life, guess I don't have that dishonesty in me ✌.) Stupid cvnt lol seriously woman are trash.
 

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Guess who flaked again, not that I was expecting any different, she talked to me up until around noon today saying how nervous she was then stopped responding all together, finally sent her a final text: (Guess I never understood why people flake when they have a chance to bring something good into there life, guess I don't have that dishonesty in me ✌.) Stupid cvnt lol seriously woman are trash.
Have you ever thought about this being a fake profile and someone just having fun jerking people's chain?
 

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So, had one the other day. I wanted to meet up, and she gave me her number and wanted to chat first. Well, texts were a day a or two apart, and we exchanged maybe 20 texts. I have been cutting off all women I am not particularly interested in laying...

Me: I am not much for drawn out text convos. Let's meet up. Call me this weekend and we can setup something next week. If not, good luck to you!
Her: I don't think there is much of a love-match here. I wish you the best of luck!
You wasted your time. She told you her intentions immediately. She was looking for an orbiter.

I don't know how many times I have to say this.... stop texting. If she wants to chat, pick up the phone and call her for 5-10 minutes, then ask her out again. If she doesn't get into your frame of wanting to meet up, throw her number away. You're wasting your time.
 

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My thoughts. If you aren't interested, why even waste your time with a response? Feels like it gives her power? It was the first time I have had this sort of encounter.
Say something snarky back then block her. She'll see the block when she responds.

On another note... I usually don't confirm dates, but I have drive 30 mins to see a different girl... What's the best approach to make sure I don't get stood up, or will most women at least flake beforehand? We setup this date on Thursday... I set it, she confirmed... guess it is just a chance I take? I would say we setup pretty good text rapport
The best thing you can do is be meticulous with the planning. Pick a location that you'd like to check out anyway and expect her not to show up. You have to get comfortable with being stood up to really exude the confidence of not giving a ****. Trust me. Her standing you up saves you time and money in the long run, since you know immediately where you fall on her list of priorities.

You have to get comfortable with losing before you can win. Being stood up seems like a waste of gas, but 95% of men will text her to confirm, then rationalize their way into asking the same chick out again in a few days after she flakes. This prevents you from even knowing where you stand, thus blowing more time and money on a woman that doesn't give a **** about you.
 

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Re: Online dating.

I got 7 lays in January all from OLD, including the current girlfriend. Be algorithmic in your approach. Quick rundown of my strategy. As you guys already know, the pictures & profile are more important than anything. This is the game strategy only.

Messaging

The script always looks like this. I was active on 4 apps, did the same pitch every single time.

Me: Hey how are you
Her: Good, u?
Me: I'm well, just got back from the gym. How often do you work out?
Her: <answer>
Me: Oh. What's your name?
Her: <name>. U?
Me: Eyebrollin. Nice to meet you <name>. Let's get to know each other over drinks.
<wait for response>


Easy friendly intro. Nothing cheesy or offensive. No punctuation in the first message, but spelling and grammar remain correct. The gym line is a qualifier I look for so I know where she stands. It's also an open ended question. The answer isn't all that important to the process. The name exchange is just to lengthen the conversation with a "formal" introduction. If she responds that she doesn't drink I'd always follow up with coffee, then tea. What to do on the next response (assuming she responds, some don't which means they're out).

Scenario 1: Compliance.

Her: Sure
Me: What days are you free this week?
Her: <schedule>
Me: Ok, let's meet at <location> at <time>. Does that work for you?
Her: Yes sounds good.
Me: Great, I'll see you there. <phone number> if you need to reach me
Her: ok <phone number>


It usually goes smoothly like this. If she gives you exact days, choose one and make it work. If she gives you an open schedule answer like "any day after 6," give her two days of options (i.e. Monday at 7 or Wed at 9) and ask which one works better for her. She'll choose.

At this point the date is set up. I don't call or text to verify. You should already know where you stand if she flakes. If she texts you beforehand, 90% of the time it is to see if you still plan on showing up (and now you have her number if she didn't leave it in a message).

Scenario 2: Non Compliance

Her: I'd prefer to chat more before meeting
Me: Sure we can talk, what is your phone number?


In this scenario, she will give you the number which you will send a "ping" text with your number, then call her on the phone for 5-10 minutes to ask her out. But what if she doesn't?

Her: I need to know more about you before I give you my number.
Me: What would you like to know about me?


I got a few of these. Believe it or not this will build rapport since it forces her to inquire about you. After you answer a few of her questions, go back to asking for her phone number so you can call her up and ask her on the date. Don't ask for the date a second time on the app. Don't think you're out if you get to this phase.

The strategy is get to the point of making the date as soon as possible, by establishing frame. If they don't play ball with this template their interest level just isn't high enough or they are just too rigid to waste time on. They will put up blockades on every advance you make. There is no need for elaborate questions or witty text game. The direct approach works with women, especially if you mass message as many women as possible.

Remember, if a woman stops answering your messages she is not interested. If she answers, she has some interest, even if it isn't where it needs to be at that point in time.
 
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Good stuff above. Feel like I need templates with some things just to get me started...

To add, getting them on the phone seems like you get a bigger commitment from them. I think it is super rare for guys to actually call these days.
 
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Good stuff above. Feel like I need templates with some things just to get me started...

To add, getting them on the phone seems like you get a bigger commitment from them. I think it is super rare for guys to actually call these days.
Yep. The goal is to get the date, not to chit chat. I've substituted phone for face time. The only reason you're calling is to build rapport, which is only required if she specifically says she needs to talk more. You simply cannot sell her through texting. Texting is for orbiters. Your prime objective online is to physically get in front of as many chicks as possible.
 

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Have you ever thought about this being a fake profile and someone just having fun jerking people's chain?
I gave it thought but I found her on fb just to make sure so she's real, got a message from her this morning lol (Im sorry I didn't flake on you my grandma ended up going to the hospital im sorry I understand your mad at me) haven't decided what I'm gonna do with it yet or even message her back.
 
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Re: Online dating.

I got 7 lays in January all from OLD, including the current girlfriend. Be algorithmic in your approach. Quick rundown of my strategy. As you guys already know, the pictures & profile are more important than anything. This is the game strategy only.

Messaging

The script always looks like this. I was active on 4 apps, did the same pitch every single time.

Me: Hey how are you
Her: Good, u?
Me: I'm well, just got back from the gym. How often do you work out?
Her: <answer>
Me: Oh. What's your name?
Her: <name>. U?
Me: Eyebrollin. Nice to meet you <name>. Let's get to know each other over drinks.
<wait for response>


Easy friendly intro. Nothing cheesy or offensive. No punctuation in the first message, but spelling and grammar remain correct. The gym line is a qualifier I look for so I know where she stands. It's also an open ended question. The answer isn't all that important to the process. The name exchange is just to lengthen the conversation with a "formal" introduction. If she responds that she doesn't drink I'd always follow up with coffee, then tea. What to do on the next response (assuming she responds, some don't which means they're out).

Scenario 1: Compliance.

Her: Sure
Me: What days are you free this week?
Her: <schedule>
Me: Ok, let's meet at <location> at <time>. Does that work for you?
Her: Yes sounds good.
Me: Great, I'll see you there. <phone number> if you need to reach me
Her: ok <phone number>


It usually goes smoothly like this. If she gives you exact days, choose one and make it work. If she gives you an open schedule answer like "any day after 6," give her two days of options (i.e. Monday at 7 or Wed at 9) and ask which one works better for her. She'll choose.

At this point the date is set up. I don't call or text to verify. You should already know where you stand if she flakes. If she texts you beforehand, 90% of the time it is to see if you still plan on showing up (and now you have her number if she didn't leave it in a message).

Scenario 2: Non Compliance

Her: I'd prefer to chat more before meeting
Me: Sure we can talk, what is your phone number?


In this scenario, she will give you the number which you will send a "ping" text with your number, then call her on the phone for 5-10 minutes to ask her out. But what if she doesn't?

Her: I need to know more about you before I give you my number.
Me: What would you like to know about me?


I got a few of these. Believe it or not this will build rapport since it forces her to inquire about you. After you answer a few of her questions, go back to asking for her phone number so you can call her up and ask her on the date. Don't ask for the date a second time on the app. Don't think you're out if you get to this phase.

The strategy is get to the point of making the date as soon as possible, by establishing frame. If they don't play ball with this template their interest level just isn't high enough or they are just too rigid to waste time on. They will put up blockades on every advance you make. There is no need for elaborate questions or witty text game. The direct approach works with women, especially if you mass message as many women as possible.

Remember, if a woman stops answering your messages she is not interested. If she answers, she has some interest, even if it isn't where it needs to be at that point in time.
Just curious. What is your response if your schedules don't line up that week? I have found with 50% custody, I only have 1-2 free days per week. Seems like if I can't set something up right away, it is usually a lost cause.
 

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Just curious. What is your response if your schedules don't line up that week? I have found with 50% custody, I only have 1-2 free days per week. Seems like if I can't set something up right away, it is usually a lost cause.
I go for the number if I can't match up her schedule right there.

Me: Those days won't work on my end. Let's chat in the meantime. What's your number?

Send the ping text, then have a 5-10 minute phone conversation. Don't ask her out since you're busy, but tell her you'll be in touch and ghost until next week when you can try again.
 

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I gave it thought but I found her on fb just to make sure so she's real, got a message from her this morning lol (Im sorry I didn't flake on you my grandma ended up going to the hospital im sorry I understand your mad at me) haven't decided what I'm gonna do with it yet or even message her back.
So you pretty much know the chick is real. It could be a BS story, but saying your grandmother's sick to not meet up is the sign of a screwed up chick. It "could" be true that he grandmother went to the hospital. I'd be skeptical but just reply: "Sorry to hear that. Family is more important than some random dude. Hope everything is ok."

And leave it like that. Let her hit you up to re-schedule, if she does. Fine. She may be also testing you by telling you "I know you're mad". Whay would any sane person be mad if someone's family member was sick unless it's a "tell" that she's BSing and wants to see how you react. Again just reply: "Sorry to hear that. Family is more important than some random dude. Hope everything is ok." and leave it be. She may come around but don't wait.
 

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So you pretty much know the chick is real. It could be a BS story, but saying your grandmother's sick to not meet up is the sign of a screwed up chick. It "could" be true that he grandmother went to the hospital. I'd be skeptical but just reply: "Sorry to hear that. Family is more important than some random dude. Hope everything is ok."

And leave it like that. Let her hit you up to re-schedule, if she does. Fine. She may be also testing you by telling you "I know you're mad". Whay would any sane person be mad if someone's family member was sick unless it's a "tell" that she's BSing and wants to see how you react. Again just reply: "Sorry to hear that. Family is more important than some random dude. Hope everything is ok." and leave it be. She may come around but don't wait.
Here's what i said: Wish you would have just shot me a text to let me know, it's all good. Her:I didn't even have my phone with me I left I in the car not even thinking im sorry tho I owe you big time. Me:
Well Maybe you can cook
For me sometime sooner then later, her:I can do that, me: ok when?. Her whenever your free. I said I can do a night this week when your certain without a doubt it's good to go, she said ok so I'll see what happens. 2 flakes is about full on my shet meter though.
 

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Here's what i said: Wish you would have just shot me a text to let me know, it's all good. Her:I didn't even have my phone with me I left I in the car not even thinking im sorry tho I owe you big time. Me:
Well Maybe you can cook
For me sometime sooner then later, her:I can do that, me: ok when?. Her whenever your free. I said I can do a night this week when your certain without a doubt it's good to go, she said ok so I'll see what happens. 2 flakes is about full on my shet meter though.
Ask her about her grandmother. Ask if she's ok. Show "concern" and ask if she went to see her. If she cuts it short or seems like BS you'll know. It doesn't hurt to show you "care" about her grandma. I'd skip talking about the dinner and "make it up to me" bs as all you're doing is avoiding her possible BS story to have another flake. I'd go with "concern" for granny. It could be true. And if so she may be playing "cool" but going to flake regardless because you completely avoided her grandmother issue. Just show "concern" and see how it goes with that story. If it's real you look like a "good guy". If you sense it's BS? Then you know she's going to pull some more BS in the future and I'd just drop it.
 
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