"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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obtaining girl's number through mutual friend

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aschillascanbe

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went out with a mutual friend to meet 2 girls.. decided that i wanna game one of the girls.. there was abit of IOIs going on.. kino and etc.. in the end i didn't manage to get her number.. my friend says he can give it to me after informing her..

the hang out wasn't exactly ideal.. i mean me and my friend have only known each other for a short while.. the rapport between us is not that strong.. i would dread another hang out like this.. im confident that i can do it much better by myself..

what do you guys think of it? should i just go ahead and do it?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Scars

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What you should had done:

Had a good meet up and and got her number that night.

What you should do now:

Don't attempt to get her number without good rapport, she will just see you as creepy. Rather, talk to your friend about getting all of you guys for a second meet up and make a better impression and follow the first advice.

If she flakes or refuses, move on.

-Scars
 
VladPatton

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ALWAYS get the number yourself. It shows confidence and is a good exercise to get you used to doing it. Do it yourself, man, regardless of the outcome.
 
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