Observations gaming at a bar full of college girls as an older guy.

[Jesse Pinkman]

I should give some context here. There is a rooftop bar near me (Miami) which, on most nights, is for adults (25+ yr olds). I know the owner who I met doing MMA and he told me that when he first opened it, it was meant to be only for grown ups. Then at one point, The U (Hurricanes) reached out to him to host a college night. He said no but they persisted and now, every Thursday, that bar gets flooded with college kids.

In other words, this bar was not even meant for college kids but the U Of Miami sort of shoved its Co-Eds on to us. I like to sit around at a bar as it crowds up, play on my phone, and pre-game here a bit before I go to real venues.

For those of you who are not familiar with the University Of Miami, it is a private university full of rich kids from the East Coast (mainly NY and NJ). As for me, I am in my 30s but can easily pass for my early to mid-20s. Here are some of the things I have noticed and I might add to this.

It doesn't seem like anyone is getting any action, not even college guys.

I usually see college guys all in a group by themselves and I see college girls in a group by themselves and guys they came with. Rarely do I see any pickup or Game happening. If it does happen, it is like they already know each other from a class or an activity. Most of the times, it is girls rolling in with either a group of other girls or a mixed group.

There are definitely older guys trying....but not really succeeding.

One night I went out, I saw guys who clearly looked like PUAs try and practically spam approach in the venue, it got them nowhere. I have also seen cases where a visibly older man (greying) will try and the girl is clearly creeped out, like I hear her say "that was so creepy" after the guy has gone away. I don't think in the month or two that I have been here that I have seen any older guy actually pull or have any luck.

A number of college girls are on the hunt to use older guys who can buy them a drink.

I actually opened a two-set, one was a really hot brunette with blue eyes and the other was her sexy Asian friend. We make small talk but I keep it very platonic. When their friends come, I drop. I was sitting at the bar and they were near me hence I opened. Minutes later, brunette says "I have had no luck fleecing guys for drinks tonight". I overheard this but pretended not to. Brunette keeps eyeing me and asks me "what should I get?" after looking at a drinks menu, I say "whatever your soul desires" and immediately turn away.

Girls are on IG and the dating apps while out.

I was sitting down at a bar and this one girl behind me celebrated getting into Raya, an exclusive celebrity dating app. She was swiping while her gay friend was telling her who to say yes and no to. This was an eye-opener because this bar had its fair bit of college Chads in it but they were all standing by themselves drinking and broing it up.

But there may be hope for older guys if my experience has anything to say about it.

One thing I have done towards the latter half of 2025 is up my style by a lot. It is a mix of edge and classiness. What it has led to is me getting opened more than I ever have in my life. The college bar is no exception, in fact, it has happened even more. I number closed and had a date with this Jewish girl who was quite hot and a senior at UM, unfortunately, her friends saw us out in public and rudely interrupted the date and she had to leave for a trip the next day. As you may have guessed, the friend were two fat girls. I did not even approach this chick at first, she approached me and gave me her number.

I have been approached a number of other times, sometimes even opened by college Chads who ask me for style tips and then get shocked when I tell them I am over 30.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Miami doesn't even count. It's like a fake city made of fake people

 

[Bokanovsky]

There are definitely older guys trying....but not really succeeding.

One night I went out, I saw guys who clearly looked like PUAs try and practically spam approach in the venue, it got them nowhere. I have also seen cases where a visibly older man (greying) will try and the girl is clearly creeped out, like I hear her say "that was so creepy" after the guy has gone away. I don't think in the month or two that I have been here that I have seen any older guy actually pull or have any luck.

Let's get real. By and large, the only older dudes "succeeding" with much younger women are the sugar daddy types. Of course, as with every rule, there are exceptions. Occasionally, you'd meet a girl who is specifically attracted to much older men, like the girl I dated earlier this year who was 17 years younger than me. You wouldn't be surprised to learn that she had major daddy issues.

Your average North American college age girl would not even consider dating a guy who is 15-20 years her senior. Even 10 years is pushing it.

 

[Manure Spherian]

So much KMS/KYS material on this site lately.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Let's get real. By and large, the only older dudes "succeeding" with much younger women are the sugar daddy types. Of course, as with every rule, there are exceptions. Occasionally, you'd meet a girl who is specifically attracted to much older men, like the girl I dated earlier this year who was 17 years younger than me. You wouldn't be surprised to learn that she had major daddy issues.

Your average North American college age girl would not even consider dating a guy who is 15-20 years her senior. Even 10 years is pushing it.

I think recently this site has been visited by middle aged late bloomer men wishing time machines actually exist. Hence the hangup on much younger women.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Huhm.. another data point that says dating is pretty much dead; demographics and culture is changing. Average girls only have about 10-15 years at most to trap a guy, but they are "spinning their wheels". All dressed to go out, but nothing to do. Trying to build relationships? Nope... Trying to meet new people, Nope... Same for the young men. It's a Mexican stand off

A lot of older guys are trying because they are products of their time. They are still trying. It's an old habit. But they too will wise up. Such a weird environment. hahhahaah.. The only thing is the women don't know, they are the one's losing because their fertility is limited. Their beauty is ephemeral.

I've notice this same dynamics in neighborhood bars... women are going out to be essentially be alone hahhaa; they can do it at home or at their female friends place; In the past, people go out to actually meet new people hahaha

 

[CornbreadFed]

Miami and Florida in general sound like poop holes lol.

 

[MatureDJ]

I think recently this site has been visited by middle aged late bloomer men wishing time machines actually exist. Hence the hangup on much younger women.

Men are designed by evolution to be attracted to younger women; harridans are barren.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Men are designed by evolution to be attracted to younger women; harridans are barren.

I understand this. We are also attracted to older women, even if less so.

 

[HaleyBaron]

We are also attracted to older women, even if less so.

Ask yourself, what exactly would a man want out of an older woman. Attraction isn't the same between older and younger women. It's a very different thing.

 

[EyeOnThePrize]

Ask yourself, what exactly would a man want out of an older woman. Attraction isn't the same between older and younger women. It's a very different thing.

A compatible personality can overcome a lot, especially looks (to an extent), just like a shiit personality can turn you off from the hottest woman.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Ask yourself, what exactly would a man want out of an older woman. Attraction isn't the same between older and younger women. It's a very different thing.

An older woman can range from 1 day to elderly woman. We need specifics.

 

[Slowhandluke]

A compatible personality can overcome a lot, especially looks (to an extent), just like a shiit personality can turn you off from the hottest woman.

true... but why marry an older women who has been arround? Just be friends or "partners". A compatible personality cannot overcome infertility if the man wants kids. also, if she has been arround, that doesn't boded well for longterm commitment.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Good for you OP. I've only been to Miami once and it wasn't my cup of tea.

 

[Plinco]

I should give some context here. There is a rooftop bar near me (Miami) which, on most nights, is for adults (25+ yr olds). I know the owner who I met doing MMA and he told me that when he first opened it, it was meant to be only for grown ups. Then at one point, The U (Hurricanes) reached out to him to host a college night. He said no but they persisted and now, every Thursday, that bar gets flooded with college kids.

In other words, this bar was not even meant for college kids but the U Of Miami sort of shoved its Co-Eds on to us. I like to sit around at a bar as it crowds up, play on my phone, and pre-game here a bit before I go to real venues.

For those of you who are not familiar with the University Of Miami, it is a private university full of rich kids from the East Coast (mainly NY and NJ). As for me, I am in my 30s but can easily pass for my early to mid-20s. Here are some of the things I have noticed and I might add to this.

It doesn't seem like anyone is getting any action, not even college guys.

I usually see college guys all in a group by themselves and I see college girls in a group by themselves and guys they came with. Rarely do I see any pickup or Game happening. If it does happen, it is like they already know each other from a class or an activity. Most of the times, it is girls rolling in with either a group of other girls or a mixed group.

There are definitely older guys trying....but not really succeeding.

One night I went out, I saw guys who clearly looked like PUAs try and practically spam approach in the venue, it got them nowhere. I have also seen cases where a visibly older man (greying) will try and the girl is clearly creeped out, like I hear her say "that was so creepy" after the guy has gone away. I don't think in the month or two that I have been here that I have seen any older guy actually pull or have any luck.

A number of college girls are on the hunt to use older guys who can buy them a drink.

I actually opened a two-set, one was a really hot brunette with blue eyes and the other was her sexy Asian friend. We make small talk but I keep it very platonic. When their friends come, I drop. I was sitting at the bar and they were near me hence I opened. Minutes later, brunette says "I have had no luck fleecing guys for drinks tonight". I overheard this but pretended not to. Brunette keeps eyeing me and asks me "what should I get?" after looking at a drinks menu, I say "whatever your soul desires" and immediately turn away.

Girls are on IG and the dating apps while out.

I was sitting down at a bar and this one girl behind me celebrated getting into Raya, an exclusive celebrity dating app. She was swiping while her gay friend was telling her who to say yes and no to. This was an eye-opener because this bar had its fair bit of college Chads in it but they were all standing by themselves drinking and broing it up.

But there may be hope for older guys if my experience has anything to say about it.

One thing I have done towards the latter half of 2025 is up my style by a lot. It is a mix of edge and classiness. What it has led to is me getting opened more than I ever have in my life. The college bar is no exception, in fact, it has happened even more. I number closed and had a date with this Jewish girl who was quite hot and a senior at UM, unfortunately, her friends saw us out in public and rudely interrupted the date and she had to leave for a trip the next day. As you may have guessed, the friend were two fat girls. I did not even approach this chick at first, she approached me and gave me her number.

I have been approached a number of other times, sometimes even opened by college Chads who ask me for style tips and then get shocked when I tell them I am over 30.

This has been mostly my experience as well up here in central Florida.

It's totally doable after learning how to get around the dynamics.

 

[HaleyBaron]

A compatible personality can overcome a lot,

So you're one of those people who try to be friends with your girl. lol Btw, a younger girl being compatible destroys your argument cause I see a lot of older dudes with young women.

 

[EyeOnThePrize]

true... but why marry an older women who has been arround? Just be friends or "partners". A compatible personality cannot overcome infertility if the man wants kids. also, if she has been arround, that doesn't boded well for longterm commitment.

Tax advantages or if she's from another country or simply for symbolic reasons, no one said marriage is necessary for a fulfilling relationship. And if surrogates or adoption aren't a path you want to pursue then i guess an older woman is a deal breaker for you. Regarding long term commitment, there are no guarantees. I know plenty of girls that were huge wh0res that eventually settled down and have been with the same guy for years. Sure the stats may say they're outliers, but the point is it's not black and white, and thinking so would be a mistake.

So you're one of those people who try to be friends with your girl. lol Btw, a younger girl being compatible destroys your argument cause I see a lot of older dudes with young women.

Weird conclusion. No, girls tend to get butthurt if I friendzone them. I don't try to be friends with anyone, I simply do what I feel like and if I vibe with people then we tend to hang out more. Not sure what you mean by destroying my argument with the last bit, I never said young girls never pair up with older guys.

 

[zekko]

It doesn't seem like anyone is getting any action, not even college guys.

I usually see college guys all in a group by themselves and I see college girls in a group by themselves and guys they came with. Rarely do I see any pickup or Game happening. If it does happen, it is like they already know each other from a class or an activity. Most of the times, it is girls rolling in with either a group of other girls or a mixed group.

There are definitely older guys trying....but not really succeeding.

One night I went out, I saw guys who clearly looked like PUAs try and practically spam approach in the venue, it got them nowhere. I have also seen cases where a visibly older man (greying) will try and the girl is clearly creeped out, like I hear her say "that was so creepy" after the guy has gone away.

Sounds like maybe the girls might be wanting the other college guys to hit on them, but they don't have the nerve to do anything.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Regarding long term commitment, there are no guarantees. I know plenty of girls that were huge wh0res that eventually settled down and have been with the same guy for years. Sure the stats may say they're outliers, but the point is it's not black and white.....

how is this not black and white statistics say the more marriages a person has, the higher the divorce rate. thats pretty black and white to me. people dont change that much. Personality doesn't change that much.

I agree longterm relationships do not require being married in the legal sense. Therefore, why even get married, especially to women who have been shown to not be loyal? Be friends, know who you are and know who they are. I have male friends who I like BUT would nevwr trust with any sum of money (nor would I trust them with my happiness).

I guess when women act like a hyper guy (they date atround, the dont see marriages as a commitment, etc.) ita only natural to treat them as one of the guys. you dont marry them.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

how is this not black and white statistics say the more marriages a person has, the higher the divorce rate. thats pretty black and white to me. people dont change that much. Personality doesn't change that much.

I agree longterm relationships do not require being married in the legal sense. Therefore, why even get married, especially to women who have been shown to not be loyal? Be friends, know who you are and know who they are. I have male friends who I like BUT would nevwr trust with any sum of money (nor would I trust them with my happiness).

I guess when women act like a hyper guy (they date atround, the dont see marriages as a commitment, etc.) ita only natural to treat them as one of the guys. you dont marry them.

They don't "require" it, but good luck finding a woman who won't require it personally after a period of time.