SELF-MASTERY
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I guess I'm just of all these guys posting about how much they suck, don't have, how ugly they are, how their mom is helping them with their game--- all that shyt...
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Wait, it's a game?SELF-MASTERY said:The most important thing is not to get so caught in all this self-help shyt to the point that you don't work on your 'game.' I'm all for people working on their insecurities and trouble area in their life, but don't forget that you become good at this game through experience. You have to cover all bases; not just inner game.
CONFIDENCE THROUGH ACTION
--- MIND WORK WITHOUT FIELD WORK IS BULL----!
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
From the first time I read that PUA garbage on fastseduction and on the google group I knew it was lame, and blocked that shyt out of my mind.NYC Dude said:I don't know about anyone else, but when I said "fvck being a pua, I just want to enjoy life" I finally started seeing results in my life both in terms of having a good time and getting girls. Techniques and such are good to know once you've got everything else in check, but they're definately not what most people need to concentrate on first.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
That's fvcking poetry brother . . .Deep Dish said:The paradigm shifted years ago. It shifted before I ever arrived here in mid-2002. The forum has stayed the same except for the cycle of different usernames and different "PUA" trends. When I got here, Ross Jeffries was in, now out of style, and now it's "Mystery" and who else. The fact that the focus on self-improvement has stayed consistent over the years tells much about its validity, whereas the trendish PUA trends speaks of its flimsy reliability.
sstype said:I like it. I feel now that we have been duped by these PUA's and their silly tactics. It is not that people havent tried to apply them. Its that deep down inside, every guy knows that the PUA philosphy does not work and is not natural.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
QFT - That post is %100 truth and probally one of the best posts I have seen on here (better than pook and any other guru) and what I try to tell you.Jvesti said:The pua stuff is generally a bunch of snake oil. I've known plenty in the PUA community that are all about that stuff we'll call them "puaists" they are for the most part tools who can't get laid and creep girls out. Even that dork yes he's a dork "style" admited that 98% of them are dorky computer nerd virgins. The other 2% in my estimation are the ones who take advantage or them or the ones who are natural game and dont realize that their pua tactics are meaningless. To illustrate my point and their stupid delusioned bull****. Most of them are socially inept and just dont get the real world and reality. Generally their friend circle is only on asf. I distinctly remember a conversation with one that went as this:
Him: ya man, i went up to a group of 9's and was doing mystery method they totally gave me tons of IOI. See it totally works, your game is foolsmate
me: oh well that's nice I had sex with a girl....muliple times
The point of interacting with girls is to get them. Hence the reason we have sex drives. They think its such a big deal when a girl smiles at them or gives them one of their stupid IOI. But they are so disillusioned from reality they can';t see that its all worthless.
Sexual Energy is what attracts women, share masculine sexuality. Charisma is merely transmuted sexual energy to other means. Successful salesmen a lot of them can't explain what they do. In all actuality they are transmuting their sexual energy in other ways. Same for most successful guys with women. Because its VERY difficult to explain transmitting a certain emotion. I take a crack at it in "T Theory: The introduction to natural game" which is in the DJ bible. But its very difficult to explain, eventually as you get more out in the world you build your confidence and yourself you just "get it". When you get it things just come out naturally, your emotions almost carry what you say and how you act without you struggling much.
I'll check out that T theory article. Sounds interesting.Jvesti said:Sexual Energy is what attracts women, share masculine sexuality. Charisma is merely transmuted sexual energy to other means. Successful salesmen a lot of them can't explain what they do. In all actuality they are transmuting their sexual energy in other ways. Same for most successful guys with women. Because its VERY difficult to explain transmitting a certain emotion. I take a crack at it in "T Theory: The introduction to natural game" which is in the DJ bible. But its very difficult to explain, eventually as you get more out in the world you build your confidence and yourself you just "get it". When you get it things just come out naturally, your emotions almost carry what you say and how you act without you struggling much.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.