SELF-MASTERY
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I guess I'm just of all these guys posting about how much they suck, don't have, how ugly they are, how their mom is helping them with their game--- all that shyt...
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Wait, it's a game?SELF-MASTERY said:The most important thing is not to get so caught in all this self-help shyt to the point that you don't work on your 'game.' I'm all for people working on their insecurities and trouble area in their life, but don't forget that you become good at this game through experience. You have to cover all bases; not just inner game.
CONFIDENCE THROUGH ACTION
--- MIND WORK WITHOUT FIELD WORK IS BULL----!
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
From the first time I read that PUA garbage on fastseduction and on the google group I knew it was lame, and blocked that shyt out of my mind.NYC Dude said:I don't know about anyone else, but when I said "fvck being a pua, I just want to enjoy life" I finally started seeing results in my life both in terms of having a good time and getting girls. Techniques and such are good to know once you've got everything else in check, but they're definately not what most people need to concentrate on first.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
That's fvcking poetry brother . . .Deep Dish said:The paradigm shifted years ago. It shifted before I ever arrived here in mid-2002. The forum has stayed the same except for the cycle of different usernames and different "PUA" trends. When I got here, Ross Jeffries was in, now out of style, and now it's "Mystery" and who else. The fact that the focus on self-improvement has stayed consistent over the years tells much about its validity, whereas the trendish PUA trends speaks of its flimsy reliability.
sstype said:I like it. I feel now that we have been duped by these PUA's and their silly tactics. It is not that people havent tried to apply them. Its that deep down inside, every guy knows that the PUA philosphy does not work and is not natural.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
QFT - That post is %100 truth and probally one of the best posts I have seen on here (better than pook and any other guru) and what I try to tell you.Jvesti said:The pua stuff is generally a bunch of snake oil. I've known plenty in the PUA community that are all about that stuff we'll call them "puaists" they are for the most part tools who can't get laid and creep girls out. Even that dork yes he's a dork "style" admited that 98% of them are dorky computer nerd virgins. The other 2% in my estimation are the ones who take advantage or them or the ones who are natural game and dont realize that their pua tactics are meaningless. To illustrate my point and their stupid delusioned bull****. Most of them are socially inept and just dont get the real world and reality. Generally their friend circle is only on asf. I distinctly remember a conversation with one that went as this:
Him: ya man, i went up to a group of 9's and was doing mystery method they totally gave me tons of IOI. See it totally works, your game is foolsmate
me: oh well that's nice I had sex with a girl....muliple times
The point of interacting with girls is to get them. Hence the reason we have sex drives. They think its such a big deal when a girl smiles at them or gives them one of their stupid IOI. But they are so disillusioned from reality they can';t see that its all worthless.
Sexual Energy is what attracts women, share masculine sexuality. Charisma is merely transmuted sexual energy to other means. Successful salesmen a lot of them can't explain what they do. In all actuality they are transmuting their sexual energy in other ways. Same for most successful guys with women. Because its VERY difficult to explain transmitting a certain emotion. I take a crack at it in "T Theory: The introduction to natural game" which is in the DJ bible. But its very difficult to explain, eventually as you get more out in the world you build your confidence and yourself you just "get it". When you get it things just come out naturally, your emotions almost carry what you say and how you act without you struggling much.
I'll check out that T theory article. Sounds interesting.Jvesti said:Sexual Energy is what attracts women, share masculine sexuality. Charisma is merely transmuted sexual energy to other means. Successful salesmen a lot of them can't explain what they do. In all actuality they are transmuting their sexual energy in other ways. Same for most successful guys with women. Because its VERY difficult to explain transmitting a certain emotion. I take a crack at it in "T Theory: The introduction to natural game" which is in the DJ bible. But its very difficult to explain, eventually as you get more out in the world you build your confidence and yourself you just "get it". When you get it things just come out naturally, your emotions almost carry what you say and how you act without you struggling much.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.