"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Not so great on my text game

Kleenhanz

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Little backstory: So the other night I met this chick around my age at a bar. We exchanged numbers, and I went home. The next day (yesterday) she started texting me asking what's up, and after I told her I was at work she mentioned she would "like to do something together sometime". I told her sure, but didn't expand on it because I was really busy. We just continued to exchange a few meaningless texts until the conversation died off.

Now, I'm not sure what to do. She obviously wants to go out on a date with me, but I feel if I text her too soon she will get the sense that I'm too clingy. Then again, she has been fairly aggressive and I feel if I don't reply soon enough she will go cold.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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amoka

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Renegade357 said:
Uhh, you're not supposed to text her. You're supposed to wait 4-5 days and call her to ask her out. Stop killing challenge.
That is not entirely true. The reason why it is suggested to wait certain number of days before contacting a chick after getting digits is to calm down on the anxiety of meeting a chick. If a chick establishes a good comfort with you, there is no harm in talking to her the same day you acquire her digits, particularly when they contact you first as in the case of the OP. In fact, I would suggest you get in touch a woman you meet at a bar or a club the same night , if you can, so as to give her something to remind her of you since countless of otherwise men more than likely approached her that night.

OP: texting is not for everyone , I am no fun of it either. In situation such as yours, I would have simply told her " I am at work, I'll contact you later". This simple response serves several purposes:
1. You are a working man and value your work seriously .
2. You make her wait, which women hate.
3. Gives you time to plan where and when to take, which chicks dig because they know you know your shyt .
Then CALL her.
 

VladPatton

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Perhaps just slow it down, let her crave you, and plan a light date to make sure you click and that SHE is not the clingy, needy one.
 

Greasy Pig

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Don't leave it too long though. She's showing high IL and a lot of what I've read on these boards is that you should strike while the iron is hot.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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georgie24

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Like it or Not texting is now right up there with real life in person social skills

do a bit of research on Good/bad texting methods, because it matters
 
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