"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
No sh1t tests from younger girl. Common?
- Thread starter Neon Owl
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
bukowski_merit
Master Don Juan
With that said, 24 is not young by my standard (18-20 is)... so my best bet is... yeah, she's into you... and has a healthy self-esteem... that's about all it takes....
After dating a game-playing milf for so long it will be refreshing to spend time with a normal girl for once.
My guard is staying firmly up however. and it will remain so for the forseeable future.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
i'm guessing it's because you "gave in" instead of negging her for switching nights.Neon Owl said:
you could have said, "i've got plans tomorrow, maybe some other time"
not sure, though.
realistically she could be telling you the truth, and feels bad about it.
"no worries" isn't terrible. it's a lot better then "sure! just name the place, and time and i'll be there!" but seeming like you had plans could raise her interest.
saying "maybe some other time" will make her show IOI if she asks you when you're free and stuff.
i think if she wasn't interested she would just leave it alone.
I did think about throwing a little 'neg' in there but it's very possible they could have just turned up. She recently moved here from another city about 50 miles away to be closer to her dad. Her bro might have come over to see his dad and stopped over at hers unannounced, or it could be bullsh1t lol who knows. Tbh I'm not too bothered it's still very early days to be caring.dmvdav said:
She txted me again last night saying she was really sorry about it all. Said she'd txt me today and she did about 20 mins ago with a load of kisses. I'll probably go round in a couple hours time.
Just goes to show you never know if a girl will flake. Even though her IL was sky high at first it can all change very quickly early on.
Young girls need extreme push-pull. You should have said nothing at all in response. She would have spent the night blowing up your phone.Neon Owl said:
Another really weak text.
I could see this from a mile away. You fail a couple of tests with a young girl and you're done immediately.
The thing about young ones is that, if you're not making them more interested, you're making them less interested. There's nothing in between; there's no neutral interaction with them. So every action you take that doesn't increase her interest in you, ends up decreasing it. Which is why you have to be completely on top of your game with young women. Frankly it's more work than I usually want to deal with.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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What exactly does the OP need to do next? im curious
Dust 2 Dust
Master Don Juan
It sounds like he's texting her way too much and on the verge of losing the frame and her interest. If you're texting her everyday multiple times a day it's only a matter of time before she gets bored with you. You never send more than 2 texts or phone calls without a response. The only thing he can do now is out-wait her until she contacts him again. You have to force her hand and make her start chasing you again. If more than a week goes by with no response then you'll know it's over.princesimba said:
Not sure how I've been txting too much? It has been HER that initiates the txting every day not me. All I'm doing is replying. And I haven't sent more than 2 txts without a response btw I don't know where you got that idea.Dust 2 Dust said:
Anyway she ended up txting me later last night saying 'really sorry I fell asleep xxx'
I replied ''Lazy arse. That's no good is it.'
She replied 'I know I'm sh1t
'I didn't respond.
If she still has any interest I'm guessing she'll get in touch today or tomorrow at latest. How should I respond when/if she does?