"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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No sh1t tests from younger girl. Common?

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^^^^^ I agree with that. You can tell this way:

If the girl is really into you, you'll think "wow this girl is into me."

If the girl is desperate, you'll think "wow this girl is crazy."
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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With young girls - i don't expect much in the form of "relationship games" from them... They're normally a lot more straight up then older women. I think it's just because they haven't been hurt enough to take on the art of manipulation yet. Lots of these girls have no idea of the value they could get for their young pvssy on the dating market also...

With that said, 24 is not young by my standard (18-20 is)... so my best bet is... yeah, she's into you... and has a healthy self-esteem... that's about all it takes....
 

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Definitely not getting any crazy vibes off her yet so it's looking good.

After dating a game-playing milf for so long it will be refreshing to spend time with a normal girl for once.

My guard is staying firmly up however. and it will remain so for the forseeable future.
 

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Got a txt off her this aft saying 'can we move tonight to tomorrow instead, my brother n mate have shown up I didn't know they were coming :('

I just replied 'Oh ok no worries'

:/
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Zarky said:
haha and it begins. You failed her first one.
How did I fail? Please explain.
 

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Neon Owl said:
How did I fail? Please explain.
i'm guessing it's because you "gave in" instead of negging her for switching nights.
you could have said, "i've got plans tomorrow, maybe some other time"

not sure, though.

realistically she could be telling you the truth, and feels bad about it.
"no worries" isn't terrible. it's a lot better then "sure! just name the place, and time and i'll be there!" but seeming like you had plans could raise her interest.

saying "maybe some other time" will make her show IOI if she asks you when you're free and stuff.
i think if she wasn't interested she would just leave it alone.
 

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dmvdav said:
i'm guessing it's because you "gave in" instead of negging her for switching nights.
you could have said, "i've got plans tomorrow, maybe some other time"

not sure, though.

realistically she could be telling you the truth, and feels bad about it.
"no worries" isn't terrible. it's a lot better then "sure! just name the place, and time and i'll be there!" but seeming like you had plans could raise her interest.

saying "maybe some other time" will make her show IOI if she asks you when you're free and stuff.
i think if she wasn't interested she would just leave it alone.
I did think about throwing a little 'neg' in there but it's very possible they could have just turned up. She recently moved here from another city about 50 miles away to be closer to her dad. Her bro might have come over to see his dad and stopped over at hers unannounced, or it could be bullsh1t lol who knows. Tbh I'm not too bothered it's still very early days to be caring.

She txted me again last night saying she was really sorry about it all. Said she'd txt me today and she did about 20 mins ago with a load of kisses. I'll probably go round in a couple hours time.
 

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Ha ok well just to update she stopped replying a few hours ago. I sent her a txt 'you dozed off? :/' about an hour ago and still no reply.

Just goes to show you never know if a girl will flake. Even though her IL was sky high at first it can all change very quickly early on.
 

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Neon Owl said:
How did I fail? Please explain.
Young girls need extreme push-pull. You should have said nothing at all in response. She would have spent the night blowing up your phone.

Ha ok well just to update she stopped replying a few hours ago. I sent her a txt 'you dozed off? :/' about an hour ago and still no reply.
Another really weak text.

Just goes to show you never know if a girl will flake. Even though her IL was sky high at first it can all change very quickly early on.
I could see this from a mile away. You fail a couple of tests with a young girl and you're done immediately.

The thing about young ones is that, if you're not making them more interested, you're making them less interested. There's nothing in between; there's no neutral interaction with them. So every action you take that doesn't increase her interest in you, ends up decreasing it. Which is why you have to be completely on top of your game with young women. Frankly it's more work than I usually want to deal with.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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so the bad behaviour begins

What exactly does the OP need to do next? im curious
 

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princesimba said:
What exactly does the OP need to do next? im curious
It sounds like he's texting her way too much and on the verge of losing the frame and her interest. If you're texting her everyday multiple times a day it's only a matter of time before she gets bored with you. You never send more than 2 texts or phone calls without a response. The only thing he can do now is out-wait her until she contacts him again. You have to force her hand and make her start chasing you again. If more than a week goes by with no response then you'll know it's over.
 

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Dust 2 Dust said:
It sounds like he's texting her way too much and on the verge of losing the frame and her interest. If you're texting her everyday multiple times a day it's only a matter of time before she gets bored with you. You never send more than 2 texts or phone calls without a response. The only thing he can do now is out-wait her until she contacts him again. You have to force her hand and make her start chasing you again. If more than a week goes by with no response then you'll know it's over.
Not sure how I've been txting too much? It has been HER that initiates the txting every day not me. All I'm doing is replying. And I haven't sent more than 2 txts without a response btw I don't know where you got that idea.

Anyway she ended up txting me later last night saying 'really sorry I fell asleep xxx'
I replied ''Lazy arse. That's no good is it.'
She replied 'I know I'm sh1t :('
I didn't respond.

If she still has any interest I'm guessing she'll get in touch today or tomorrow at latest. How should I respond when/if she does?
 
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