"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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no sex, no love no nothing

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So I like this girl, and me and my friends go out with her a lot and hang out.
I try to get her but she says she doesn't want a boyfriend, because it's stupid to have one.
Also telling her sex jokes, or just mentioning something without clothes, or saying something about sex. She always says that's disgusting, and she doesn't want to have sex...
I don't know if she lying or she's really so anti sex things, nothing turns her on :p


It may sound like I just want her for sex, but i'm not, i'm just trying to get her in some way ....
And she likes me the most, always hangs out with me and we do stuff together, I wouldn't say im her best friend because she doesn't talk with me like her best friends..

What am I doing wrong, is there hope or what?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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how old are you
 
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You are her best friend. Sorry, dude. She sees you as more as a brother than a potential lover hence her disgust for all the sex/nudity stuff.

You need to start flirting with other girls including this girl's girl-friends.
 
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The Bat said:
You are her best friend. Sorry, dude. She sees you as more as a brother than a potential lover hence her disgust for all the sex/nudity stuff.

You need to start flirting with other girls including this girl's girl-friends.
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Alot of the time if you mention sex directly in their psychology they pretty much have to be like "eew that's disgusting" so as not to be seen as slutty.

If you say this stuff and she still hangs around or keeps coming back that is a pretty good sign. Instead of talking about it and making jokes, kiss her or something and see.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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yea, but most of the girls I talk to are not like ewww and stuff. She's kind of different or just shy to talk about it.
Me and my friends are going out to eat now, and I asked her if she's hungry...She said she isn't hungry but wants to go along... strange
She's 16.
 
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rsofa said:
she says she doesn't want a boyfriend, because it's stupid to have one.
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Only one thing: Had she really met an awesome guy, she'd be falling heads over heels to give the "boyfriend" thing a try!

The sad truth: that awesome guy isn't you.

Although I hope you will change that at some point.

Merry Christmas!
 
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After, asking her a bunch of stuff she said to me she only kisses and makes out occasionally on parties when she's really drunk.
The last time that she kissed someone sober was last year on new year. Then she didn't want to go over the details. I'm suspecting something bad must have happened and she fears relationships??
 
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man, you are stressing over NOTHING. Go improve yourself, get a black belt, get skilled with guns, get a PILE of money, THEN get a 3rd world wife, and make it a BEAUTIFUL, smart, sexy one, and only count on having her for the 5 years it takes her to become a US citizen. Get her to sign a prenuptial agreement about finances, get a vasectomy before having sex with her, and don't ever let her know much a bout your finances or goodies. Figure on getting another such woman every 5 years. You do NOT have to take whatever crap these US *****es want to hand out. Just ignore them, follow this game plan, and youll have it all, soon enough.
 
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@goundra
lol...
That's something that im not interested in.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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@goundra
lol...
That's something that im not interested in.
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Yeah wtf lol.

You analyze too much. the simple fact is, make a movie. Do something her only her, and kiss her. The point of this is to figure out once and for all if she likes you. One you figure out that she doesn't, accept it, accept that you're not going to get with her and that you're not going to talk to her again. Accept it and move on.
 
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goundra said:
man, you are stressing over NOTHING. Go improve yourself, get a black belt, get skilled with guns, get a PILE of money, THEN get a 3rd world wife, and make it a BEAUTIFUL, smart, sexy one, and only count on having her for the 5 years it takes her to become a US citizen. Get her to sign a prenuptial agreement about finances, get a vasectomy before having sex with her, and don't ever let her know much a bout your finances or goodies. Figure on getting another such woman every 5 years. You do NOT have to take whatever crap these US *****es want to hand out. Just ignore them, follow this game plan, and youll have it all, soon enough.
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Mate, cut all this unrealistic sh1t that doesn't ever apply to anyone's situation. No one on the high school forum is going to even consider doing such an absurd thing. Nothing you say is relevant here. Cool you've found your plan, go and do it and leave the rest of us be.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Oh man. You're stressing over a girl that's younger than you. In high school, younger girls were the easiest to get.

Here's a hard lesson to learn-- no matter what conversations you have through technology, it is only the conversations in person that will win a girl over. All of this virtual sex talk is doing more harm than good. (That is how these conversations happen right? Because if you have an in-person conversation about who she's kissed, you probably get a shot to kiss her. Not so with the internet)

It sounds like this girl is too young for you. If a girl told me the most I could get was a make out, I would leave her alone and go find sex.
 
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Im going on a trip with my friends, and ill have some alone time with her for an hour or 2 tell me how should I make a move?
Should i just go and kiss her? :D
Or ask her how she feels about me?
Tell her my feelings?
Or something else?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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