"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I gave this some time before I would make this thread. But there's a decadence going on here in the west, especially in the US, where women are just not clicking with guys anymore nor letting pick up happen. In my city, for instance, not only is there little interaction between the two sexes, but even at night, out at bars or clubs, the women don't even let themselves get at least flirted with. They'll talk for a bit, then go off. This has happened so much that I'm seeing a decadence in male and female sexuality. I traveled to a big event in Atlanta [not my home city], where all types of people from different industries were mingling, and even there, that same thing was happening. People stuck to the people they knew, there were talking, but nothing that looked like two strangers vibing and maybe finding some fun.

What I do notice of course is that the advantage is still on the female side. Men are so desperate out here that I am seeing muscular guys getting with some very average women. Yes, couples do exist and it's not like that is not happening, but being out in public seems more like a viewing window rather than the organic social pool that it was before. It's a contrast compared to before 2010 where there was at least some attempt.

I blame not only social media and the dating apps, but I blame society at large for shaming all men with movements like MeToo and all this feminist boogeyman crying that happens on all forms of entertainment. It has made men afraid and at the same time made women cautious but entitled. So if you're not getting results, I can't blame you.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto. There's not a lot to clean up for the rest of us. But then again, was the game every truly that fair?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto. There's not a lot to clean up for the rest of us. But then again, was the game every truly that fair?
It was when the world openly did coke at the club. But then you end up like Cosby years later being framed for date rape when that was literally her intention to have sex.
 

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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto
There's a grain of truth to this... As mentioned elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/incel-tv-has-a-new-channel.284009/page-2#post-3187255 , here in The US, organized crime syndicates are THE ONLY folks who boast anything approaching a backbone

Tradcons begin fawning over a Candace Owens or Laura Loomer, whenever such clowns waddle into the circus. And large sections of The Manosphere have been simping for the likes of Karen Straughan, Janice Fiamengo, and(more recently)Pearl Davis, for an unforgivably long time

By contrast, Cartel operatives and full patch members of your neighborhood outlaw motorcycle MC are out in the wild, doing the things commentators simply fantasize about
 
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The only guys i know who do well in the US are either rich or ghetto. There's not a lot to clean up for the rest of us. But then again, was the game every truly that fair?
With that attitude, if I say what cities, would you even believe me? I waited to respond because I knew the bias that awaits me, the mentality of everyone on this board.
 

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With that attitude, if I say what cities, would you even believe me? I waited to respond because I knew the bias that awaits me, the mentality of everyone on this board.
You came into this thread and said...

I live in a city where it’s the complete opposite.
We're simply asking you to explain instead of making some weird excuse that we're going to be biased. This is a discussion not reddit.
 

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I live in a smaller town and I see it occasionally. Orlando is a bigger city and I think it happens there more often.

Just because people around you aren't doing it doesn't mean you can't do it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I live in a smaller town and I see it occasionally. Orlando is a bigger city and I think it happens there more often.

Just because people around you aren't doing it doesn't mean you can't do it.
Orlando IMO is the definition of either being rich or ghetto as the only real predictable way of getting laid. I think its literally the sugar baby capital of the US. I saw FAMOUS pua's get BLOWN out like crazy over there.
 

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With that attitude, if I say what cities, would you even believe me? I waited to respond because I knew the bias that awaits me, the mentality of everyone on this board.
I mean, everything is subjective anyway, we're not literally conducting research, just sharing patterns we've observed. Of course there are all kinds of in between gray areas.
 

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There's a grain of truth to this... As mentioned elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/incel-tv-has-a-new-channel.284009/page-2#post-3187255 , here in The US, organized crime syndicates are THE ONLY folks who boast anything approaching a backbone

Tradcons begin fawning over a Candace Owens or Laura Loomer, whenever such clowns waddle into the circus. And large sections of The Manosphere have been simping for the likes of Karen Straughan, Janice Fiamengo, and(more recently)Pearl Davis, for an unforgivably long time

By contrast, Cartel operatives and full patch members of your neighborhood outlaw motorcycle MC are out in the wild, doing the things commentators simply fantasize about
Guys like Andrew Tate do well in places like Miami for a reason. He's basically semi-organized-crime light. Or at least he portrays it very well + whether or not he got framed simply adds to the image. American women are too crass (the current generation) to be able to enjoy anything else other than ghetto or rich, you can see the reflection of this cultural zeitgheist by observing the media consumption that's favored by them, brainless mumble rap trash. thats why i left the country, my mentality is "you should not adapt to an environment if the adaptation will actually weaken you AKA don't wanna become ghetto and aint gonna spend 20 years trying to get rich so i could finally enjoy these brainless basics"
 

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That's the result of giving women all the decision power in sex. They minmax to what gets their feelings going the most instead of thinking long term.
 

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American women are too crass (the current generation) to be able to enjoy anything else other than ghetto or rich, you can see the reflection of this cultural zeitgheist by observing the media consumption that's favored by them, brainless mumble rap trash
Throughout human history, fortune hasn't favored wimps. Sad fact is, here in The Anglosphere, we're living through an era in which pretending to be more fragile than one really is celebrated in mainstream culture... In THAT societal atmosphere, full-time criminals appear heroic

This isn't the first time in living memory such a thing happened. Gangsta Rap and Nu Metal were, in part, a middle finger to the the more emo way of living encouraged by Grunge and Adult Contemporary in the early 90s
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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