"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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No Masturbation for 6 months! Join in!

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Hey guys I'm going off to have a quick wank ok.

Edit: Just came back from my wank. Man, that was awesome!
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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hah.

Out of pure curiousity i'll try it too.

What you gotta tell yourself is "Next time i bust a nut, it's gonna be on a girls face"


So i got 4 days of wanking left...definately calling in sick tomorrow :)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I have work to do, but somebody said, essentially, to put up or shut up, so I'm going to put up and let you lot sort it out.

The original article on the study done in Germany was reported in print, not online, in Der Spiegel. If memory serves, it would have been around the time of the last World Cup. A good college library should have back issues, although being able to read German is essential. On a shorter note, in English:

"The German team physician endorses sex for male and female athletes, saying: "Sex does not cause any loss of strength."

He may be right. This year, a Russian psychologist told a German newspaper that neither gender should abstain. "It’s simple," she said. "More sex means more gold.""

http://news.scotsman.com/features.cfm?id=814602004

If it's good enough for the German Olympic team...although this article gives a whole new outlook on the Games!

Also:

"Having sex before an event should not physically hinder your athletic output or performance . In actuality it may even help athletes before an important game. The usual scenario the night before a game or competition is one filled with anxiety and insomnia. One of the most inexpensive, easiest, and beneficial ways to have a good night's rest and relax is sex, even if it is masturbation. Only persons with severe heart conditions may have a problem with sexual activity, and those people would hardly be medically fit to undertake serious athletic competition."

So why do so many pro athletes swear by abstinance?

"The outcome is that the athlete believes in it so much that it influences him or her to perform better."

In other words, it works only because they think it works.

And:

"The Minnesota Viking's last four trips to the Super Bowl ended in defeat, 0-4. Might that be due to the fact that the coaches enforced abstinence the night before?"

Heh...

All from http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/?article=anatomy&refid=009

And

"... the coach's old maxim that sex saps strength is questionable, as long as proper rest and sleep patterns are maintained. A study at Colorado State University showed that having sex within 24 hours of athletic activity didn't hurt performance."

From http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0675/is_6_18/ai_67372497

No comment on masturbation here, but since sex is a heck of a lot more vigorous, not to mention time-consuming, I'd say that whacking off before the game is pretty safe, and you're more likely to get a good night's sleep, since orgasm helps with that. Too much exercise, though, can muck up your sex life.

As far as all of the wonderful things this experiment is supposed to do to your testosterone?

"Researchers found that abstaining from ejaculation for six days had no impact on serum testosterone levels. On the seventh day, serum testosterone levels peaked to 145.7% of baseline, and then declined rapidly on the eighth day.7,8"

from http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/south99.htm

So in other words, eight days into this, your testosterone is going to take a nice nose dive.

From the same site: frequent ejaculation in your twenties helps protect against prostate cancer, and frequent orgasm has positive effects on heart health and immune function, and where immune function is concerned, it's induced orgasms that do the trick, not nocturnal emissions, which is interesting. They key is induced orgasms. How they're induced doesn't seem to matter.

Where your prostate gland is concerned, it appears to be use it or lose it. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/04/040408090927.htm

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/07/17/masturbate030717

Just for kicks:

http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byissue/masturbation.html

Problems associated with frequent masturbation? Lowered sperm count:

"The more a man ejaculates each week, the lower his sperm levels fall, new research shows. However, this ejaculatory frequency only partly explains why a man's sperm count varies widely each time it's checked."

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-09/01/content_370811.htm

So if you're trying to become a father, backing off a bit might be a good idea. If you're not, once a day won't render you sterile but it will decrease your chances.

Orgasm is good for you, plain and simple. If masturbation is causing serious disruption in your life, the problem is either some kind of physical issue that requires medical attention or it's the result of what you believe about it. Read a few history books on the subject of sex and culture. It can help put the whole thing into perspective. As far as how you feel goes, I'm not interested in feelings because they're subjective. They apply only to the individual having them, and they are based on perceptions that often lack any connection to reality. Facts are a heck of a lot more important.

Have I been with a man who tried, with some success, not to masturbate? Yes. I've also known more casually many who felt wierd/guilty/depressed about it, and, like that particular ex, they tended to have a lot of other hang-ups, too. It wasn't that they weren't having sex, or even having a lot of sex, it was that they had a lot of artificial limits put on that sex. Some positions, kinds of play, or whatever were automatically out and any woman who indulged in them was a sl*t, regardless of her actual number of partners. They also tended to get freaked out by the fact that the female body was a human one, that women eat, sh*t, p*ss, menstruate, fart, and look weird first thing in the morning. A lot of guys I went to college with were like this, a few so bad that they wouldn't even look at their girlfriends before they put their morning warpaint on. So much for Saturday morning! Whether they grew out of it or not, I have no idea, nor do I know what created the difference between them and the men who did not have these hang-ups.

What they were not? Smooth operators or, if their girlfriends were to be believed, particularly outstanding lovers. They were just horny. And repressed. It got old.

Oh, and my editors? These guys know sex inside-out and backwards, but they were never AFCs. Or jerks, either. No they're not Alphas in the sense you all seem to define it, nor do that have much by way of game. Most may not even know what it means. What they are is smart, sophisticated, interesting, open and very sensual. They're a pleasure to work with, but they have no fear of pleasure, and that's a rare, wonderful thing in this world.

And no, I haven't slept with any of them, but they do want things from me and it's getting past time I delivered. I'm curious to see what they think.

Again, feel like you have to do this? Then do it. Good luck. But I don't think it would hurt to take a close look at what's inspiring it, not your knee-jerk reactions to masturbation but to what's behind them. Does it make you feel bad because it causes physical problems that orgasm in a women does not? Or do you feel bad because you think you should?

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Again, feel like you have to do this? Then do it. Good luck. But I don't think it would hurt to take a close look at what's inspiring it, not your knee-jerk reactions to masturbation but to what's behind them. Does it make you feel bad because it causes physical problems that orgasm in a women does not? Or do you feel bad because you think you should?
I said I woldn't post anymore, but I'm really trying to make you understand the reason why many of us are trying to stop.cut back.

I am not giving up masturbation, completely... I will do it only when I'm feeling incredibly horny and need some release.. sometimes even a woman can't satisfy the urge.

This will amount to a few times /month.. for me. Others are so gorny that they can't go a few days.... whatever

The part that is disruptive is when masturbation becomes a bit of a passtime and a hobby. It's when it turns into something we do when we're at home and just bored.. with very little horniness happening

Think of a man's natural sex drive as a bank account. When there's always some enthusiasm and a bit of pent up sexual energy, masturbating won't affect him...Much like dipping into the savings account won't make you go broke... but, if you start spending way more than you can save, pretty soon things start getting in to the red... THIS is where the problem is at.

We don't give ourselves time to get back up to the normal levels.

After years of this, a man's mentality can start to change. Depression can set in, etc... Look up sexual exhaustion on google, and read up on it.

Masturbation is fine when it's not out of control.
 

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Persephone.........................






Go back to the Greek mythology from whence you came.....
 
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I'm not buying any of that nonsense about ejaculation not affecting athletic performance.

Ever done it the same day as an athletic event? It kills your energy completely. It has nothing to do with your mental perception of it at all. I once whacked it about 3 hours prior to a cross country race. I had a good night's sleep, plenty of nutrition beforehand, but it was the ejaculation that affected me. My legs felt like rubber and I ran one of the worst races of my life. At that point in time I wasn't even really aware of how it affected one's energy levels. Now I am.

My personal experience is that ejaculation will sap your energy, at least for several hours afterward, and if it gets excessive, it can start to affect you in the long-term.

I don't care about all these "studies", as they are inconclusive anyway. Ejaculating up to 24 hours before an athletic event could mean anywhere from 23.9 hours before to 1 hour before the event. I highly doubt any dude would whack it an hour before a game. Ask any male and they will be inclined to agree with me. A male orgasm simply makes you feel very sleepy and passive for about 20 minutes afterward. It feels like you just woke up from a nap.

Personally I think ejaculating 3x a week is enough. Any more than that and it's almost like you're smoking pot every day; you're just generally unmotivated and passive in most of the things you do.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Im gonna try to cut back. Im not goin 6 months but Im gonna try 2 or 3 week.

The point people are trying to get across is this: There is nothing wrong with masturbation, BUT if you let it control you or you do it to much (every day) it can become an addiction that lulls your sex drive.
 

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Im in starting today lol ima have the usual wank but not white stuff coming out AHHHHHHHHHHh towardds manhood!! I think? lol
 

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Starting 28th today

also stop the goddam bickering. go get each others AIM and message each other. :rolleyes:
 

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ah lets just forget that last reply i'm ****ed up i say one thing but don't mean it and whatever.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I'll join in. Sounds like fun. I want to see how my mindset changes. I haven't gone more than a week or two without jerking it since I was like 15.
yeah same here.
im doing this to see if my mind changes for the better. I have nothing to lose so i'll join also.
 

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SamePendo was talking about starting a new thread, but I don't know when.

Nov. 24 - Thursday --- 4 days
- I did get laid by my g/f last night when she came back into town. I was horny as hell and my sexual advances were blunt and I'm usually very passive. Trying to get that out of my system once and for all. Training myself not to jerk off so damn much and get more sex.
 
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I'm on my 3rd day of not masturbating. One thing that I do when I feel the urge to masturbate is to think of how tired and weak I feel right after I bust a masturbatory nut.

I can't wait to not masturbate some more.
 

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Heres a pointless list so far..............

SamePendo

nw1512

Phantasmal

C00L

Kerensky

Boner da Stoner

mroriginal

brosnake

monroe

strams4ever

steroidsrule

handle

Aquatico

drdrew

tyte3

The Bad Ass Canadian

arlanda

Sophomakhos

Rec_rejection_phobic

lets_do_this

g g g unit

On_the_Top

Bourne

Apollo_Jordan

Dover

MetalFortress

philly_95

Levex

ChampusMaximus

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avrilishot

kulowiper

jookins

thederekeffect1

Finlay

Brian20o2

d.k.kong

Disconnect

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The list is Updated Everyday
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THEY TOOK 'ER JERBS!
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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